Chiefs Chiefs continuing to host QB prospects - Page 9

RunKC · 04-06-2017, 01:30 PM

Watson, Mahommes and Kizer all visited KC recently. Today it's Josh Dobbs per Jeremy Fowler.

IMO this is the QB the Chiefs will most likely draft.

rico · 04-09-2017, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

And this is why you are an idiot! Trade up for Reuben Foster, try to get the DB from Washington and take Mixon. Then go oline the rest of the way and ride the season out. Draft said QB next season and fill the holes. Think and quit reacting!

But dude, we like...don't have a QB. I mean, seriously...it's like we don't even have one.

kcxiv · 04-09-2017, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Thank God people like you and the QB 1 club aren't in charge. We'd be saddled with a bunch of 5-11 seasons with Geno Smith, Aaron Murray, etc.

5-11 or 11-5 and out in the first round of the play offs, im not saying much of a difference. IF the Chiefs were serious contenders for the Superbowl then its a different story, but we arent.

**New World Order** · 04-09-2017, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Thank God people like you and the QB 1 club aren't in charge. We'd be saddled with a bunch of 5-11 seasons with Geno Smith, Aaron Murray, etc.

Or maybe we'd have Derek Carr who Andy reportedly 'liked' but didn't draft because we 'already had ASS'

TambaBerry · 04-09-2017, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

5-11 or 11-5 and out in the first round of the play offs, im not saying much of a difference. IF the Chiefs were serious contenders for the Superbowl then its a different story, but we arent.

This is what I don't understand about these fans who don't want to draft a qb. It's like they're content being out in the first round of the playoffs. Also, don't tell me that Alex beat the Texans, he threw for 190 yards in that playoff game. If I was the GM I'd cut alex Smith right now draft a rookie qb and hope to god he is going to be good. We know for a fact that Alex Smith isn't winning any playoff games so why continue to win just enough games to keep us out of the high draft picks?

I know why they continue to put Smith out there, it's because of the dumb fans like stryker who eat up being 12-4 and losing in the playoffs. They're always like "we need to draft more defense and next year we'll win it" "Alex Smith wasn't the problem" etc. It's this loser mentality that keeps our franchise shit.

Messier · 04-09-2017, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

This is what I don't understand about these fans who don't want to draft a qb. It's like they're content being out in the first round of the playoffs. Also, don't tell me that Alex beat the Texans, he threw for 190 yards in that playoff game. If I was the GM I'd cut alex Smith right now draft a rookie qb and hope to god he is going to be good. We know for a fact that Alex Smith isn't winning any playoff games so why continue to win just enough games to keep us out of the high draft picks?

I know why they continue to put Smith out there, it's because of the dumb fans like stryker who eat up being 12-4 and losing in the playoffs. They're always like "we need to draft more defense and next year we'll win it" "Alex Smith wasn't the problem" etc. It's this loser mentality that keeps our franchise shit.

It's true Smith didn't help in the Steelers game, but Bell ran for 180 yards in that game. Yes, not stopping the run was reason number one they lost that game. And I know it's been argued to death, but Smith had a terrific game against the Colts. Sure, you can say he threw four TDs but needed to throw five in order to not shoulder that loss. But that's a dumb thing to say.

I think they are going to draft a replacement this year, and it's time to replace Smith, I agree he's taken them as far as he can, but I don't agree that the losses in the playoffs are on him, they're on the team. If you're going to blame him and him alone, then you should also give him sole credit for the winning record he has the last five or six years.

**Baby Lee** · 04-09-2017, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

All I'm going to say is this. The QB class is not great for certain but don't give me the other positions have more talent crud. We have heard that for 30 years. We know this, if you don't have a stud at QB the rest of the team won't matter. We need to take a shot at some hope.

What everyone glosses over is that if the scouts can't identify talent, and the trainers can't coach them up, throwing darts at the QB draft board don't help a damn thing.

You think landing a Brady is an NFL rarity, try landing a self-taught, self-motivated, self-error correcting franchise QB.

Maybe Montana and Peytie-pie, and that's it in the history of the league

Red Dawg · 04-09-2017, 06:36 AM

Nobody is a lock to be a bust and nobody is a lock to great. You don't know until a player gets a chance to play. All there is is just opinion. One of the QBs in this class will be great most likely. Franchise player.

rico · 04-09-2017, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Or maybe we'd have Derek Carr who Andy reportedly 'liked' but didn't draft because we 'already had ASS'

ASS... I love it. You've got me in the dropping ASS when referring to Alex club. His name is officially ASS, to me.

bigjosh · 04-09-2017, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

It's true Smith didn't help in the Steelers game, but Bell ran for 180 yards in that game. Yes, not stopping the run was reason number one they lost that game. And I know it's been argued to death, but Smith had a terrific game against the Colts. Sure, you can say he threw four TDs but needed to throw five in order to not shoulder that loss. But that's a dumb thing to say.

I think they are going to draft a replacement this year, and it's time to replace Smith, I agree he's taken them as far as he can, but I don't agree that the losses in the playoffs are on him, they're on the team. If you're going to blame him and him alone, then you should also give him sole credit for the winning record he has the last five or six years.

It doesn't matter how many yards Bell ran for, the steelers won that game without scoring a single touchdown. The defense did their job, held Pittsburgh to 18 measly points and the chiefs offense shit on their own dick for 55 minutes. Blaming that loss on the defense giving up a ton of rushing yards is ridiculous.

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RunKC · 04-09-2017, 07:35 AM

If Dorsey thinks Mahomes is the guy then aweseome. If he thinks Peterman or Dobbs or Kaaya is the best guy in the 2nd rd then I'm on board too. 2nd rd=big investment.

I trust the guy drafting 3 all pro's in 4 years over any analyst, pundit or CP poster.

**RealSNR** · 04-09-2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

And this is why you are an idiot! Trade up for Reuben Foster, try to get the DB from Washington and take Mixon. Then go oline the rest of the way and ride the season out. Draft said QB next season and fill the holes. Think and quit reacting!

Excuse me. Excuse me, sir? Yes, I have a few questions about your proposed draft strategy. I know how brilliant it is and that you spent soooo much time "thinking" about it and definitely not "reacting," but there might be one or two tiiiiiiny details you overlooked.

1. You call somebody an idiot and then you advocate we trade UP to get a goddamn mother****ing ILB, you ****ing reerun.

2. Our trade up is for a guy who will go in the top 15 picks. That's going to require a lot of draft ammo from somewhere. It ain't gonna get done with a 4th and maybe a couple 6ths. How do you propose we draft Sidney Jones and that scumbag Joe Mixon if those picks we would use to get them are used to trade up for arguably the position of least importance to a 3-4 defense?

3. Again, I know you THOUGHT about this and just didn't throw shit in a bag and call it good, but when you say, "Go Oline the rest of the way," are you talking about the draft? Let's say we're Kevin Costner and we trade up to get Reuben Foster for nothing. We've got our 5th and 6th round picks. You're saying we should go Oline with those picks. Interesting strategy. You do realize that this is the worst ****ing sham of a class for offensive line the draft has seen in the past 10 years, right? I mean, you did your thinking and concluded that the QB class sucks, so we should stay away. I'm just wondering why you think dipping in multiple times in the LATE end of a position group that sucks even more than the QB class is a wise decision.

4. This is kind of a follow-up to #3, but here it is. If you "think" and never "react" then why did you just throw a blanket statement like, "go OL the rest of the way" out there? What exactly is wrong with our Oline that isn't the problem at other depth positions on the team? Isn't it true we also need depth at OLB, DL, WR, TE, and... oh yeah, QUARTERBACK? Just "going OL the rest of the way" in (and I repeat) a ****ing bloody abortion of an OL class doesn't seem smart. It seems like we'd just be pissing away all of our late round picks instead of investing in players that actually MIGHT make contributions to the team one day.

5. Could you do me a favor? I would love it if you would get brutally raped and murdered. Could you go do that for me, please?

Coogs · 04-09-2017, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Don't know but who is at 27 this year? Sell the farm to move up above Houston? That is crazy.

If we could get Miami to trade down from 22, it would roughly take our compensation pick from the 3rd round to make the points work. That's not the farm.

The Jets at 6 and the Browns at 12 are going to hold the whole key IMO. If one of those two pass at QB, and the other takes one, it looks like 3 of the top 4 would be there at 22.

If the guy Reid and Dorsey want is still there at 22, I think this is a must deal. Because Houston could very well take their/our guy at 25.

**RealSNR** · 04-09-2017, 07:59 AM

Remember, guys!

You all need to think and quit reacting!

Your considerations of QBs as a long-term investment particularly when you already have a stop-gap starting QB on your team is just a reaction! You're not THINKING!

Be like Stryker. He's a draft genius! He wants upgrades at starting ILB and RB, so he's advocating we trade up using draft picks in a DEEP, DEEP draft year to go get our ILB.

And he's already done his research on RB! While you dick swindlers are considering good option fits for a starting RB in the 3rd - 7th rounds because this is an insanely deep draft class of RBs and you can find starters just about anywhere as long as they fit what your offense is trying to accomplish, he's already identified THE solution! The scumbag RB from the Big 12 school a few hundred miles down the road! That's the solution to our problem!

Guys, just stop it. Okay? Stop it. Stop your reacting. Do some thinking for once in your goddamn lives!

Coogs · 04-09-2017, 07:59 AM

I'm going to add more to that. I think if we stay at 27 in that scenario, and Houston goes QB, someone from round 2 is going to try and swing a deal with Seattle at 26 thinking we will go QB at 27 to make sure that we don't take their guy. Then we would be left with whoever is left out of the 4.

**RealSNR** · 04-09-2017, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm going to add more to that. I think if we stay at 27 in that scenario, and Houston goes QB, someone from round 2 is going to try and swing a deal with Seattle at 26 thinking we will go QB at 27 to make sure that we don't take their guy. Then we would be left with whoever is left out of the 4.

That doesn't matter! GM Stryker already did all the thinking and will be able to trade up from 27 into the early teens to grab Reuben Foster, and he's also going to have the necessary draft stock to draft Sidney Jones, Joe Mixon, and a bunch of ****ing offensive linemen.

He's like Donald Trump and Jesus combined into one! He can feed a town with just one fish, and he'll make Mexico pay for that fish!

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1550389	If Dorsey thinks Mahomes is the guy then aweseome. If he thinks Peterman or Dobbs or Kaaya is the best guy in the 2nd rd then I'm on board too. 2nd rd=big investment. I trust the guy drafting 3 all pro's in 4 years over any analyst, pundit or CP poster. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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04-09-2017, 07:59 AM	#134
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2175651	I'm going to add more to that. I think if we stay at 27 in that scenario, and Houston goes QB, someone from round 2 is going to try and swing a deal with Seattle at 26 thinking we will go QB at 27 to make sure that we don't take their guy. Then we would be left with whoever is left out of the 4.
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