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Old 02-28-2024, 11:41 PM   #1
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Not gonna lie…this is super ****ing lame. The last round of renovations (also promised as a facelift that would last a generation) felt like a significant improvement. That was only 2010.

This feels like spending almost a billion dollars on parking and some stupid ass seats no fans who care about the actual game would ever want. You can’t see shit from field level.

I very much feel like the chiefs shook hands with the Royals on this as a good faith thing to make it look like they were being good neighbors, but that the chiefs preference would be a standalone deal for a new stadium.

They phoned this the **** in.
I doubt the royals are happy with this either. This did nothing to help the vote.
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Old 02-29-2024, 12:17 AM   #2
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I doubt the royals are happy with this either. This did nothing to help the vote.
Count me in the underwhelmed camp
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Count me in the underwhelmed camp
This proposal as it is now, is going nowhere.
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Old 02-28-2024, 11:46 PM   #4
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Personally I would rather the Chiefs had come with a much larger proposal for an entirely new stadium than a proposal to spend this amount of money on stuff that seems pretty unimpressive.
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Old 02-29-2024, 09:49 AM   #5
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I'm not sure why they would want to do this when in 20 years they'll want a new stadium just build the new one now?
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Old 02-29-2024, 10:43 AM   #6
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I'm not sure why they would want to do this when in 20 years they'll want a new stadium just build the new one now?
Would you wait to bilk taxpayers out of hundreds of millions if you could improve the experience for your rich friends in a few years?
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Old 02-29-2024, 10:46 AM   #7
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Would you wait to bilk taxpayers out of hundreds of millions if you could improve the experience for your rich friends in a few years?
I mean that is a fair point considering almost all of the reno plans have to do with making the game experience better for rich people.

My favorite is how part of the plan is to expand the gigantic parking lot instead of putting some other things around the stadium.
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I mean that is a fair point considering almost all of the reno plans have to do with making the game experience better for rich people.

My favorite is how part of the plan is to expand the gigantic parking lot instead of putting some other things around the stadium.
It’s great if you’re a VIP. Spend some time and money at the (Debit Card) Activation Zone then get on your escalator and hang out in the Club before you saunter to your end zone suite and don’t watch the game. Poor folks up top at least get heat in the concourses so that was thoughtful.

Strongside covered this earlier in the thread. The royals called in the Calvary to push this vote along and they deserve the shit plan the chiefs put forth.
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Old 02-29-2024, 10:58 AM   #9
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It’s great if you’re a VIP. Spend some time and money at the (Debit Card) Activation Zone then get on your escalator and hang out in the Club before you saunter to your end zone suite and don’t watch the game. Poor folks up top at least get heat in the concourses so that was thoughtful.

Strongside covered this earlier in the thread. The royals called in the Calvary to push this vote along and they deserve the shit plan the chiefs put forth.
The Chiefs are hitting a point where average person can't go to games anyway so of course it's for rich people.
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Old 02-29-2024, 11:12 AM   #10
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It’s great if you’re a VIP. Spend some time and money at the (Debit Card) Activation Zone then get on your escalator and hang out in the Club before you saunter to your end zone suite and don’t watch the game. Poor folks up top at least get heat in the concourses so that was thoughtful.

Strongside covered this earlier in the thread. The royals called in the Calvary to push this vote along and they deserve the shit plan the chiefs put forth.
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I mean that is a fair point considering almost all of the reno plans have to do with making the game experience better for rich people.



My favorite is how part of the plan is to expand the gigantic parking lot instead of putting some other things around the stadium.
What other things do you think will work around the TSC? Some 50 odd years tells us it works football baseball and select concerts and monster truck events. It gets large amounts of people ln parked and out. That is it it is within 10 miles of the plaza and downtown kc. If you don't like to drive 10 miles well don't go. People at least for the chiefs are not choosing the don't go option. This plan has options for folks to lift and Uber with public transportation options where at best there have been none that were easy and doable. Maybe they could provide electric scooter racks and rent those scooters to folks who don't automobile. They can get to there precious downtown by using them scooters on those empty bicycle lanes.


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Old 02-29-2024, 10:47 AM   #12
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Chiefs will ask for a new stadium once they start doing renovations for the World Cup. That will uncover problems with the stadium.
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Chiefs will ask for a new stadium once they start doing renovations for the World Cup. That will uncover problems with the stadium.
Interesting theory but why wait? And why claim that they got the good concrete while the royals got the bad concrete right now if so? They could have made the same case as the Royals about it being more cost effective to build a new stadium rather than renovate now and I think more people would have been on board. The Chiefs have the most leverage of any team in the country when it comes to stuff like that. Why not use it now?
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Interesting theory but why wait? And why claim that they got the good concrete while the royals got the bad concrete right now if so? They could have made the same case as the Royals about it being more cost effective to build a new stadium rather than renovate now and I think more people would have been on board. The Chiefs have the most leverage of any team in the country when it comes to stuff like that. Why not use it now?
They need the Royals out first. Plus to ease the backlash of tearing down Arrowhead. Saying hey we tired but the World Cup renovations revealed true problems is an easy out.
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I didn't watch the actual presentation, but these images at least give a better idea of the minor(ish) things that are included.
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