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Old 07-26-2012, 08:51 AM  
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:29 AM   #1396
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You can't have it both ways, when we do good people want to say we did good in spite of Cassel, when we do bad people want to lay it all on Cassel. I am not saying Cassel is the shit but I remember several instances of dropped balls, the line getting stuffed on 3rd and short, the line getting stuffed at the goal line, the defense getting torced by TE's left and right.
It's not hard to understand. Allow me to break it down for you.

Cassel frequently plays well against bad teams and bad quarterbacks. We win those games because of that.

Cassel frequently plays poorly against good teams and good quarterbacks. We lose those games because of that.

Ergo, 71.4 percent of Cassel's career wins come against shitty quarterbacks, and he is 3-13 against good quarterbacks. (see the best thread ever for reference).
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:31 AM   #1397
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I'd rather a QB throw for 60 yards and a win than 300 and a loss.
Me too.

But if those 60 yards are indicative of his level of ability, I'd rather he die in a dumpster fire.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:32 AM   #1398
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Right here.
Well teh win against the Chargers last year he threw for 260, not 60
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:34 AM   #1399
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It's not hard to understand. Allow me to break it down for you.

Cassel frequently plays well against bad teams and bad quarterbacks. We win those games because of that.

Cassel frequently plays poorly against good teams and good quarterbacks. We lose those games because of that.

Ergo, 71.4 percent of Cassel's career wins come against shitty quarterbacks, and he is 3-13 against good quarterbacks. (see the best thread ever for reference).
This is a myth. Qb's don't play against each other, QB's play against defenses while the other QB is on the sideline. An objctive statement would be that more times than not, our defense didn't play well against good QB's and Cassel didn't play well against good defenses.

Now I understand there is gray area there
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Well teh win against the Chargers last year he threw for 260, not 60
That's great and all that, but i wasn't talking about that game, was I? Obviously that wouldn't be an example of winning in spite of, would it?
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Well teh win against the Chargers last year he threw for 260, not 60
Which was also a complete fluke win, because Rivers fumbled a snap for no reason one play before the Chargers kicked the game winning FG.
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Which was also a complete fluke win, because Rivers fumbled a snap for no reason one play before the Chargers kicked the game winning FG.
Shut up, you don't help any.
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This is a myth.
Yes, a myth based on repeated instances of the same thing happening across four years and four different teams, including in New England.

Moron.
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Which was also a complete fluke win, because Rivers fumbled a snap for no reason one play before the Chargers kicked the game winning FG.
Cassel lead the game winning drive. You want to blame someone for the Chargers being in the position to win the game point the finger at the defense.
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FYI, just to point out an example of what a frickin' moron you are:

In 2010, our defense played extremely well against the Colts, gave Cassel lots of chances to win the game, and he friggin' sucked so hard, so much, that eventually Manning took advantage of it.

That's why Cassel keeps losing to elite quarterbacks. He gives them too many chances to win the game, or he can't keep up with them.
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Yes, a myth based on repeated instances of the same thing happening across four years and four different teams, including in New England.

Moron.
You make no sense. QB's don't compete against each other. When did I miss teams running a QB out on defense?
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Cassel lead the game winning drive. You want to blame someone for the Chargers being in the position to win the game point the finger at the defense.
You wanna know why the defense was on the field to permit a potential game winning drive?

BECAUSE CASSEL WENT THREE AND OUT.
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QB's don't compete against each other.
Ever watch an NFL game you mouth-breathing ****tard?

Ever watch the ending of the 1994 Chiefs-Broncos game on Monday Night ****ing Football?
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FYI, just to point out an example of what a frickin' moron you are:

In 2010, our defense played extremely well against the Colts, gave Cassel lots of chances to win the game, and he friggin' sucked so hard, so much, that eventually Manning took advantage of it.

That's why Cassel keeps losing to elite quarterbacks. He gives them too many chances to win the game, or he can't keep up with them.
I seem to remember a worshipped Dwayne Bowe dropping a crucial pass that hit him right in the numbers that turned the tables in that game as well. I know, Cassel made him drop it.
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Ever watch an NFL game you mouth-breathing ****tard?

Ever watch the ending of the 1994 Chiefs-Broncos game on Monday Night ****ing Football?
Sure did. Never once saw Elway out on defense either.
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