Chiefs Chiefs' Player Jevon Belcher involved in murder-suicide, shoots self at Arrowhead - Page 98

MoreLemonPledge · 10:32 AM

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

GoShox · 12-01-2012, 05:37 PM

Johnny Kane ‏@johnnykane9
Two fans just put this sign up outside the Chiefs training facility. pic.twitter.com/DgD9k5LY

Ehhh I don't like this, at all. Like I've said, he was one of my favorite players.. but he shouldn't be honored for what he did.

Chiefshrink · 12-01-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I hope both teams just give the most awful Pro Bowl*9,999,999,999,999 effort tomorrow. Making these coaches and players go through that experience is a pathetic move by the league.

Yep !

Just like the tragedy of Sandy and NY canceling the marathon you would at least think that the NFL would re-schedule for a double Mon Niter that would be in the least the most decent thing to do IMO. "F" the revenue and logistic scheduling ramifications. Life happens and you have to do the right thing.

Iconic · 12-01-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We don't know why the Holocaust happened?

I'm just going to have to assume you're being facetious at this point.

What constitutes facetious? It, much like murder, isn't black and white.

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

Considering the evidence you've left all over this thread, seems he has a pretty open-and-shut case.

Then I better higher a good lawyer.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nothing.

It's not murder because it lacks the requisite mens rea. It may, may be considered involuntary manslaughter depending on the circumstances. The doctrine of transferred intent would have to apply here to ding him with murder and since he had no intent to 'murder' B (I presume by your 'cops' argument you're suggesting that A was acting in his official capacity to subdue a suspect).

You're really good at this game.

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Originally Posted by Dave

So is your trolling.

I like you Detective Dave, you're like those sassy black ladies that always know just what to say.

GoChargers · 12-01-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Then I better higher a good lawyer.

Or maybe you'd better hire a tutor to teach you how to spell, dumbass.

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I like you Detective Dave, you're like those sassy black ladies that always know what to say.

And you're like those insensitive attention whores that always try to make tragedies all about themselves.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-01-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GoShox

Johnny Kane ‏@johnnykane9
Two fans just put this sign up outside the Chiefs training facility. pic.twitter.com/DgD9k5LY

Ehhh I don't like this, at all. Like I've said, he was one of my favorite players.. but he shouldn't be honored for what he did.

I don't like it, either.

C-Mac · 12-01-2012, 05:41 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/1...whead-stadium/

-Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend Saturday, the American pro football player drove to Arrowhead Stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager, thanking them for all they'd done before turning the gun on himself.

Authorities did not release a possible motive for the murder-suicide, though police said that Belcher and his girlfriend, 22-year-old Kasandra M. Perkins, had been arguing recently. The two of them have a 3-month-old child who was being cared for by family.

Belcher thanked general manager Scott Pioli and coach Romeo Crennel before shooting himself in the parking lot of the team's practice facility, police spokesman Darin Snapp said. Police had locked it down by mid-morning and reporters were confined to the street just outside the gates.

The team said it would play its home game against the Carolina Panthers as scheduled on Sunday at noon local time "after discussions between the league office, Head Coach Romeo Crennel and Chiefs team captains."

A spokesman for the team told The Associated Press that Crennel plans to coach on Sunday.

Belcher was a 25-year-old native of West Babylon, New York, on Long Island, who played college ball at Maine. He signed with the Chiefs as an undrafted free agent, made the team and stayed with it for four years, moving into the starting lineup. He had played in all 11 games this season.

"The entire Chiefs family is deeply saddened by today's events, and our collective hearts are heavy with sympathy, thoughts and prayers for the families and friends affected by this unthinkable tragedy," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said in a statement.

"We sincerely appreciate the expressions of sympathy and support we have received from so many in the Kansas City and NFL communities, and ask for continued prayers for the loved ones of those impacted," Hunt said. "We will continue to fully cooperate with the authorities and work to ensure that the appropriate counseling resources are available to all members of the organization."

The National Football League released a statement that also expressed sympathy and said, "we have connected the Chiefs with our national team of professional counselors to support both the team and the families of those affected. We will continue to provide assistance in any way that we can."

Authorities reported receiving a call Saturday morning from a woman who said her daughter had been shot multiple times at a residence about five miles away from the Arrowhead complex. The call actually came from Belcher's mother, who referred to the victim as her daughter, leading to some initial confusion, police said.

"She treated Kasandra like a daughter," Snapp explained. Belcher's mother, who is from New York, had recently moved in with the couple, "probably to help out with the baby," Snapp said.

Police then received a phone call from the Chiefs' training facility.

"The description matched the suspect description from that other address. We kind of knew what we were dealing with," Snapp said. The player was "holding a gun to his head" as he stood outside the front doors of the practice facility.

"And there were Pioli and Crennel and another coach or employee was standing outside and appeared to be talking to him. It appeared they were talking to the suspect," Snapp said. "The suspect began to walk in the opposite direction of the coaches and the officers and that's when they heard the gunshot. It appears he took his own life."

The coaches told police they never felt in any danger, Snapp said.

"They said the player was actually thanking them for everything they'd done for him," he said. "They were just talking to him and he was thanking them and everything. That's when he walked away and shot himself."

At the home of Belcher's mother on Long Island, relatives declined to talk to reporters. A purple SUV in the home's driveway was flying a small Kansas City Chiefs flag.

Perkin's Facebook page shows the couple smiling and holding the baby.

"His move to the NFL was in keeping with his dreams," said Jack Cosgrove, who coached Belcher at the University of Maine. "This is an indescribably horrible tragedy."

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Kansas City Mayor Sly James said that he spoke to Pioli after the shooting.

"I can tell you that you have absolutely no idea what it's like to see someone kill themselves," James said. "You can take your worst nightmare and put someone you know and love in that situation, and give them a gun and stand three feet away and watch them kill themselves. That's what it's like.

"It's unfathomable," James said. "It's something you would love to wash away from your mind, but you can't do it. There's nothing like it. I don't what else to tell you. Think about your worst nightmare and multiply it by five."

The season has been a massive disappointment for the Chiefs, who were expected to contend for the AFC West title. They're just 1-10 and mired in an eight-game losing streak marked by injuries, poor play and fan upheaval, with constant calls the past several weeks for Pioli and Crennel to be fired.

The Twitter account for a fan group known as "Save Our Chiefs" recently surpassed 80,000 followers, about 17,000 more than the announced crowd at a recent game. The group was organizing a "Can Scott Pioli" food drive for Sunday that has since been canceled.

Iconic · 12-01-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

Or maybe you'd better hire a tutor to teach you how to spell, dumbass.

And you're like those insensitive attention whores that always try to make tragedies all about themselves.

Pretty certain it's spelled higher but whetaver.

DJ's left nut · 12-01-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Pretty certain it's spelled higher but whetaver.

Quoting before he hits a dictionary and discovers the edit function.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-01-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Pretty certain it's spelled higher but whetaver.

ClevelandBronco · 12-01-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Authorities reported receiving a call Saturday morning from a woman who said her daughter had been shot multiple times at a residence about five miles away from the Arrowhead complex. The call actually came from Belcher's mother, who referred to the victim as her daughter, leading to some initial confusion, police said.

"She treated Kasandra like a daughter," Snapp explained. Belcher's mother, who is from New York, had recently moved in with the couple, "probably to help out with the baby," Snapp said...

My God. What must this poor woman being going through?

GoChargers · 12-01-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Pretty certain it's spelled higher but whetaver.

If this isn't the most transparent trolljob ever, I don't know what to say.

Iconic · 12-01-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Quoting before he hits a dictionary and discovers the edit function.

God, you guys are so dmub.

Mr. Arrowhead · 12-01-2012, 05:45 PM

1 thing I dont get is why would Pioli or Crennel let Belcher out of their sights with a gun pointed towards his head

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-01-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

God, you guys are so dmub.

eyerony

Frazod · 12-01-2012, 05:45 PM

Never thought I'd see a Chiefs helmet on the front page of Drudge. Unreal.

12-01-2012, 08:52 AM
MoreLemonPledge M-I-Z S-E-C Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10004927	Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide No details yet. Just came across on the news. edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm. An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning. Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25. "We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation." There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said. The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday. The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility Last edited by MoreLemonPledge; 12-01-2012 at 10:32 AM..
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12-01-2012, 05:37 PM	#1456
GoShox Veteran Join Date: Sep 2012 Casino cash: $9888290	Johnny Kane ‏@johnnykane9 Two fans just put this sign up outside the Chiefs training facility. pic.twitter.com/DgD9k5LY Ehhh I don't like this, at all. Like I've said, he was one of my favorite players.. but he shouldn't be honored for what he did.
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12-01-2012, 05:41 PM	#1461
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $-1016301	http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/1...whead-stadium/ -Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend Saturday, the American pro football player drove to Arrowhead Stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager, thanking them for all they'd done before turning the gun on himself. Authorities did not release a possible motive for the murder-suicide, though police said that Belcher and his girlfriend, 22-year-old Kasandra M. Perkins, had been arguing recently. The two of them have a 3-month-old child who was being cared for by family. Belcher thanked general manager Scott Pioli and coach Romeo Crennel before shooting himself in the parking lot of the team's practice facility, police spokesman Darin Snapp said. Police had locked it down by mid-morning and reporters were confined to the street just outside the gates. The team said it would play its home game against the Carolina Panthers as scheduled on Sunday at noon local time "after discussions between the league office, Head Coach Romeo Crennel and Chiefs team captains." A spokesman for the team told The Associated Press that Crennel plans to coach on Sunday. Belcher was a 25-year-old native of West Babylon, New York, on Long Island, who played college ball at Maine. He signed with the Chiefs as an undrafted free agent, made the team and stayed with it for four years, moving into the starting lineup. He had played in all 11 games this season. "The entire Chiefs family is deeply saddened by today's events, and our collective hearts are heavy with sympathy, thoughts and prayers for the families and friends affected by this unthinkable tragedy," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said in a statement. "We sincerely appreciate the expressions of sympathy and support we have received from so many in the Kansas City and NFL communities, and ask for continued prayers for the loved ones of those impacted," Hunt said. "We will continue to fully cooperate with the authorities and work to ensure that the appropriate counseling resources are available to all members of the organization." The National Football League released a statement that also expressed sympathy and said, "we have connected the Chiefs with our national team of professional counselors to support both the team and the families of those affected. We will continue to provide assistance in any way that we can." Authorities reported receiving a call Saturday morning from a woman who said her daughter had been shot multiple times at a residence about five miles away from the Arrowhead complex. The call actually came from Belcher's mother, who referred to the victim as her daughter, leading to some initial confusion, police said. "She treated Kasandra like a daughter," Snapp explained. Belcher's mother, who is from New York, had recently moved in with the couple, "probably to help out with the baby," Snapp said. Police then received a phone call from the Chiefs' training facility. "The description matched the suspect description from that other address. We kind of knew what we were dealing with," Snapp said. The player was "holding a gun to his head" as he stood outside the front doors of the practice facility. "And there were Pioli and Crennel and another coach or employee was standing outside and appeared to be talking to him. It appeared they were talking to the suspect," Snapp said. "The suspect began to walk in the opposite direction of the coaches and the officers and that's when they heard the gunshot. It appears he took his own life." The coaches told police they never felt in any danger, Snapp said. "They said the player was actually thanking them for everything they'd done for him," he said. "They were just talking to him and he was thanking them and everything. That's when he walked away and shot himself." At the home of Belcher's mother on Long Island, relatives declined to talk to reporters. A purple SUV in the home's driveway was flying a small Kansas City Chiefs flag. Perkin's Facebook page shows the couple smiling and holding the baby. "His move to the NFL was in keeping with his dreams," said Jack Cosgrove, who coached Belcher at the University of Maine. "This is an indescribably horrible tragedy." ... Kansas City Mayor Sly James said that he spoke to Pioli after the shooting. "I can tell you that you have absolutely no idea what it's like to see someone kill themselves," James said. "You can take your worst nightmare and put someone you know and love in that situation, and give them a gun and stand three feet away and watch them kill themselves. That's what it's like. "It's unfathomable," James said. "It's something you would love to wash away from your mind, but you can't do it. There's nothing like it. I don't what else to tell you. Think about your worst nightmare and multiply it by five." The season has been a massive disappointment for the Chiefs, who were expected to contend for the AFC West title. They're just 1-10 and mired in an eight-game losing streak marked by injuries, poor play and fan upheaval, with constant calls the past several weeks for Pioli and Crennel to be fired. The Twitter account for a fan group known as "Save Our Chiefs" recently surpassed 80,000 followers, about 17,000 more than the announced crowd at a recent game. The group was organizing a "Can Scott Pioli" food drive for Sunday that has since been canceled.
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Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-686615	Never thought I'd see a Chiefs helmet on the front page of Drudge. Unreal.
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