*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****

[Dante84]

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 25, 2025

Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren't very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he's going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) April 25, 2025

the #chiefs get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn't suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs have selected #OSU OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. https://t.co/awdb0JhPed

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.

A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 25, 2025

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by wazu

FYI - In this draft that just happened Veach traded down in the first round and added one of those mid-round picks you like as part of it.

I know. Which isn't how he normally operates. I was surprised.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

This is weird to me. Let me lay it out…

Eagles: “Yo Chiefs, can we move up 1 spot?”

Chiefs: “Are you taking offense or defense?”

Eagles: “Defense.”

Chiefs: “Ok, deal.”

…WHY would the Eagles move forward with that trade if we had indicated to them we were taking offense. To clarify, when we asked offense or defense, and they responded defense, to which we responded “ok”… we made it clear we were taking offense. So, why didn’t the Eagles just say "never mind,” “no deal,” after they learned we wouldn’t take their defensive target?

Aha! Maybe the Eagles DID **** up!

“We may have given them a free pick” - Eagles

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...m_a_free_pick/

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

Video from eagles war room of the trade down that netted us the 5th round pick

How Brett Veach got the free 5th round pick from the Eagles, which we traded to get Jeffrey Bassa, while trading back to get Josh Simmons. Would love to hear the Veach side of this convo ��#ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/uDPQzqA4ZS

— Chief Concerns (@ConcernsChief) May 6, 2025

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

"168. Last one...obviously..."

I'll give you that one, Howie. That's a damn fine burn right there.

You beat me to it..

But yeah, **** that guy lol At least we got one off him in LVII. Takes some of the bite out of it.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

I wish we would acquire more mid round picks. We only have 6 picks next year. Might be 7 because we are projected to receive a 7th round comp pick for 2026 draft.

I prefer to trade down unless you are targeting QB, Tackle, EDGE or DT. Due to positional value, it does make sense to take a risk and trade away picks to acquire a starter at any of those positions.

But I have to say, in general I'm not a fan of trading up for a receiver, corner, Linebacker, Tight End, Interior OL, etc. (yes I realize it worked out with the McDuffie trade). There is simply too much value to be found in rounds 2 through 5 for non premium positions.

For some reason Veach hates trading down. There is a lot of value in a round 2 through 5 pick if you aren't taking a QB, Tackle or Pass Rusher.

Don't we already have SEVEN due to the Thuney trade?

[TRR]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

Video from eagles war room of the trade down that netted us the 5th round pick

How Brett Veach got the free 5th round pick from the Eagles, which we traded to get Jeffrey Bassa, while trading back to get Josh Simmons. Would love to hear the Veach side of this convo ��#ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/uDPQzqA4ZS

— Chief Concerns (@ConcernsChief) May 6, 2025

If you hear Howie, he says "I'm going to do what Veach did to me." It almost appears as if he was fine flipping a 5th just to say to Veach "yea the last pick in the round...obviously" which is what I assume Veach said to him the last time KC beat the Eagles in the SB.

Very odd...

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Don't we already have SEVEN due to the Thuney trade?

I think Veach already traded it away. Dude just can't help himself.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Don't we already have SEVEN due to the Thuney trade?

Thuney pick is gone.

It's what we used to move up and take Williams, IIRC.

[tyton75]

we are still getting a 6th for Hopkins loss in Free Agency though

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by tyton75

we are still getting a 6th for Hopkins loss in Free Agency though

FWIW, we’re projected to get a 7th not a 6th for Hopkins

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by tyton75

we are still getting a 6th for Hopkins loss in Free Agency though

Moore and Fulton will cut pretty close to Wharton/Reid/Hopkins, though.

I could see that being a 7th when it's all said and done or even falling off the list altogether.

I wouldn't expect a ton from the comp formula. I'd say about a 50% chance we end up with a 7th and a 25% chance (each) we end up with a 6th or nothing at all.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

This is weird to me. Let me lay it out…

Eagles: “Yo Chiefs, can we move up 1 spot?”

Chiefs: “Are you taking offense or defense?”

Eagles: “Defense.”

Chiefs: “Ok, deal.”

…WHY would the Eagles move forward with that trade if we had indicated to them we were taking offense. To clarify, when we asked offense or defense, and they responded defense, to which we responded “ok”… we made it clear we were taking offense. So, why didn’t the Eagles just say "never mind,” “no deal,” after they learned we wouldn’t take their defensive target?

The Eagles wanted Bo Callahan.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

I wish we would acquire more mid round picks. We only have 6 picks next year. Might be 7 because we are projected to receive a 7th round comp pick for 2026 draft.

I prefer to trade down unless you are targeting QB, Tackle, EDGE or DT. Due to positional value, it does make sense to take a risk and trade away picks to acquire a starter at any of those positions.

But I have to say, in general I'm not a fan of trading up for a receiver, corner, Linebacker, Tight End, Interior OL, etc. (yes I realize it worked out with the McDuffie trade). There is simply too much value to be found in rounds 2 through 5 for non premium positions.

For some reason Veach hates trading down. There is a lot of value in a round 2 through 5 pick if you aren't taking a QB, Tackle or Pass Rusher.

It can be nice if you are confident you can get contributing players anywhere in those rounds. But Veach is already among the best GMs in finding those mid-late round gems. Sure, it’s great to add one or two extra Jaylen Watsons or Mike Dannas, but if you’re already bringing in plenty of those guys, it’s way better to take a bigger shot on a player you’re more confident in becoming a stud.

Would you trade Jaylen Watson and Mike Danna for another Trent McDuffie? I sure as hell would.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

It can be nice if you are confident you can get contributing players anywhere in those rounds. But Veach is already among the best GMs in finding those mid-late round gems. Sure, it’s great to add one or two extra Jaylen Watsons or Mike Dannas, but if you’re already bringing in plenty of those guys, it’s way better to take a bigger shot on a player you’re more confident in becoming a stud.

Would you trade Jaylen Watson and Mike Danna for another Trent McDuffie? I sure as hell would.

Wouldn't a more fair question (seeing as how we had to trade up with a 1st) be "Would you trade Jaylen Watson, Mike Danna and George Karlaftis for Trent McDuffie"?

Because you didn't give up a 5th and a 6th to move up there. You gave up those picks AND a 1st, around where Karlaftis was taken, to make that move.

So if you don't have a spare 1st (and we rarely will) then that's the more fair comparison.

It does become a pretty close question at that point...no?

I still do it -- we get the best guy in that deal. But it's not exactly slam dunk, especially had Watson and Danna been able to stay healthy last season.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

It can be nice if you are confident you can get contributing players anywhere in those rounds. But Veach is already among the best GMs in finding those mid-late round gems. Sure, it’s great to add one or two extra Jaylen Watsons or Mike Dannas, but if you’re already bringing in plenty of those guys, it’s way better to take a bigger shot on a player you’re more confident in becoming a stud.

Would you trade Jaylen Watson and Mike Danna for another Trent McDuffie? I sure as hell would.

You're not moving up in the 1st round by trading 7th round picks. That would take a lot more draft capital to accomplish.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wouldn't a more fair question (seeing as how we had to trade up with a 1st) be "Would you trade Jaylen Watson, Mike Danna and George Karlaftis for Trent McDuffie"?

Because you didn't give up a 5th and a 6th to move up there. You gave up those picks AND a 1st, around where Karlaftis was taken, to make that move.

So if you don't have a spare 1st (and we rarely will) then that's the more fair comparison.

It does become a pretty close question at that point...no?

I still do it -- we get the best guy in that deal. But it's not exactly slam dunk, especially had Watson and Danna been able to stay healthy last season.

Watson is actually outside corner 1 on the team. He's probably a better pure outside corner than McDuffie is. To be completely serious I'd be more confident leaving Watson on an island with AJ Brown than I would with leaving McDuffie on the island with Brown.