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Old 07-19-2019, 08:47 AM  
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PS Mag: “THE DIRTY TRUTH ABOUT WHITE LIBERAL RACISM”

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THE DIRTY TRUTH ABOUT WHITE LIBERAL RACISM


We may have pushed desegregation in our laws, but it's clear many white Democrats still haven't fully embraced a desegregated society in their minds. Six scholars explain why.
BY THOR BENSON , APR 29, 2019



Fundamentally racist ideals are not the exclusive province of the right. A Reuters poll during the 2016 election found that over 30 percent of Trump voters believed black people to be less intelligent than white people. But the same poll found that over 20 percent of Hillary Clinton voters felt the same way.

Racism can be found across the political spectrum, and there is a long history of white liberals preaching equality while being reluctant to fully embrace efforts to make society more equal in ways that might discomfit them even a little. People born with privilege and power are often squeamish about giving any of it away. In a piece for Vox last year, Anderson pointed out that white people of all backgrounds often feel uncomfortable with seeing people of color in "white spaces," whether they realize it or not”.


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Old 07-19-2019, 03:55 PM   #2
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I don't see anything particularly surprising or controversial about this article (although parroting Harris' bullshit about Biden and busing is just repeating bullshit).

How many abolitionists in 1860 would sit down and have dinner with blacks, socialize with them, marry them, etc. Probably very few.

Yet they were genuinely opposed to slavery, but were still not going to accept blacks into their fold.

Avoiding "racism" will always be a work in progress. The fact that less than 100% of "white liberals" have beliefs that don't conform to the official liberal view on race is shouldn't really surprise anyone.
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:29 PM   #3
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Well, Lincoln wanted to deport all the black slaves Africa. He was a racist—not more or less than other northern whites.
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Old 07-19-2019, 05:49 PM   #4
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Well, Lincoln wanted to deport all the black slaves Africa. He was a racist—not more or less than other northern whites.
Right. Probably pretty much everyone was a "racist" at that time by today's standards.

I'm really getting more than a bit tired of "racism" being the number one issue in politics. Seems to me there are more substantive issues that really ought to be the center of attention.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:06 PM   #5
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Right. Probably pretty much everyone was a "racist" at that time by today's standards.

I'm really getting more than a bit tired of "racism" being the number one issue in politics. Seems to me there are more substantive issues that really ought to be the center of attention.
The ugly truth is that the numbers don't result in victory on 'your' side on the merits.
It's only when the emotional dividend of '-ism' charges kicks in that people on the right start getting nervous about asserting their beliefs 'on the substantive issues' and people in middle get nervous about getting lumped in with those being labelled racist.

That's why everything from lunar missions to weather patterns get framed in terms of identity politics, to foster the notion that all achievements are willfully engineered to leave minorities out, and all disasters, natural and otherwise, are willfully engineered to hit minorities hardest. And that's why they say they do without even taking the time to evidence the allegation to start with nowadays.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:18 PM   #6
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I don't see anything particularly surprising or controversial about this article (although parroting Harris' bullshit about Biden and busing is just repeating bullshit).

How many abolitionists in 1860 would sit down and have dinner with blacks, socialize with them, marry them, etc. Probably very few.

Yet they were genuinely opposed to slavery, but were still not going to accept blacks into their fold.

Avoiding "racism" will always be a work in progress. The fact that less than 100% of "white liberals" have beliefs that don't conform to the official liberal view on race is shouldn't really surprise anyone.
This is an entirely reasonable position.

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Old 07-19-2019, 06:19 PM   #7
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Right. Probably pretty much everyone was a "racist" at that time by today's standards.

I'm really getting more than a bit tired of "racism" being the number one issue in politics. Seems to me there are more substantive issues that really ought to be the center of attention.
Everyone is a racist now. Everyone has an group bias and a tribal nature.

Those who insist they do not are not to be trusted. Whether ideological or racial, tribalism is bad.

Black people are racist. White people are racist. Asians are racist. Latinos are racist.

If you don't buy that, go ask a Japanese person about Koreans. Or ask an Argentinian about a Brazilian.

Some people have a weird out-group bias driven by self hatred, but that's another bag of worms. Orwell called our particular brand "Angleophobia', though that was because he was british. It applies to self hating white americans too. This term was created by Orwell not due to external hatred from an outgroup, but from a self hating ingroup bias taking over their academic institutions. It's a different pathology, but still ****ed up racism.

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Right. Probably pretty much everyone was a "racist" at that time by today's standards.

I'm really getting more than a bit tired of "racism" being the number one issue in politics. Seems to me there are more substantive issues that really ought to be the center of attention.
Everyone’s a racist to some degree. Except Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow and some priests and rabbis here and there.
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