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Old 10-16-2019, 07:12 PM  
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U.S. veteran's guns confiscated when waitress reports innocent conversation

Heartbreaking. And what will eventually happen to every legal gun owner if you ever give these creeps an inch.

U.S. veteran's guns confiscated when waitress reports innocent conversation
Published October 16, 2019 at 11:07am

There's no reason for Americans to fret over "red flag" laws that give sweeping gun confiscation powers to local governments, right? After all, if you're not a criminal, what's the problem?

At least that's the general response voiced by many on the left whenever gun owners speak up. But a disturbing incident in Massachusetts is raising hard questions about those firearms seizure laws, especially when it comes to due process.

According to LifeZette and The Martha's Vineyard Times, an 84-year-old veteran had his legally owned firearms confiscated by local police after a waitress misheard part of a conversation between him and a friend.

To make matters worse, the vet was also reportedly fired from his position as a school crossing guard, which he used to keep busy after the death of his wife.

"Stephen Nichols of Tisbury — in the Martha’s Vineyard area of Massachusetts — got the job as a crossing guard because he loves kids," LifeZette reported. "After his wife passed away, he reportedly needed something to occupy his time and his heart."

Now he's fighting for his fundamental rights as an American. Nichols, a grandfather of 11, was apparently sitting in a local restaurant several weeks ago when he told a friend that he was concerned a school resource officer had been leaving for coffee and other errands instead of staying at the school.

"Nichols said he was worried somebody would come in and 'shoot up the school' while the officer was out on one of his coffee runs," LifeZette said. "That’s the part of the conversation the waitress overheard — which she reported to the police."

Without being charged or convicted of any crime, this Korean War-era Army veteran received a visit from officers who confiscated his personal firearms.

As The Martha's Vineyard Times reported: "Asked if he was given a letter or any paperwork for the seizure of his license, Nichols said, 'No he just told me to hand it over so I took it out of my wallet and handed it to him.'

"Nichols said he has been licensed for firearms since 1958."

Amazingly, it all appears to be based on a half-heard conversation that was taken out of context.

"Nichols said the waitress made a complaint to Tisbury Police about what she overheard and on the strength of that, [Police Chief Mark] Saloio and another officer relieved Nichols of his crossing guard duties while he was in the midst of performing them and subsequently drove to his home and took away his firearms license and guns," The Martha’s Vineyard Times reported.

"Nichols said he never carries guns outside the house and would like to have his license and his guns back, but the fate of the guns may be sealed," the newspaper added.

By all reports, Nichols is an upstanding member of the community. He said he has worked in auxiliary roles with the Tisbury Police for a staggering six decades, and has also been a court officer and constable. And it definitely appears that he was overheard voicing concern for a school shooting, certainly not encouraging one.

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Old 10-16-2019, 07:52 PM   #2
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Holy shit.

I hope the waitress feels good.
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Old 10-16-2019, 07:59 PM   #3
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But that could never happen. All red-flag laws are perfectly written and enforced so that the only people that are affected are people that are a "threat to themselves or others".
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:01 PM   #4
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Sounds pretty messed up. I believe we will be hearing more stories just like this.
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:03 PM   #5
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:14 PM   #6
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Another well-intentioned law is already being perverted by overreaching government scumbags. Disarm an 84-year-old man because of something some nosy **** overheard in a restaurant.

If you support shit like this, just imagine the worst person you know in your life using it against you, and then rethink your ****ing decision. Because that's exactly what will happen.
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:18 PM   #7
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red flag laws are tyrannical and anti-constitution.
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Old 10-16-2019, 11:02 PM   #9
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Another well-intentioned law is already being perverted by overreaching government scumbags. Disarm an 84-year-old man because of something some nosy **** overheard in a restaurant.

If you support shit like this, just imagine the worst person you know in your life using it against you, and then rethink your ****ing decision. Because that's exactly what will happen.
What's going to happen regularly is someone starts a new job, meets everybody, has a facebook, the co-workers all add him as a friend after a while because he seems nice, then one of them starts scrolling down and reading through his facebook, see's a couple of Pepe the frog memes and a pro-2nd amendment meme that he reposted 3 months ago, gets triggered, calls the authorities that this dangerous person is inciting violence on facebook and the cops come and confiscate or maybe even execute him if it's a no-knock raid.
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Old 10-16-2019, 11:15 PM   #11
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NRA needs to get this guy in court with the best lawyers money can buy, and nip this shit in the bud. Yesterday.
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Good job lady, tons of people out there 84 yo shooting up places.
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Absolutely. The gun laws are among the most restrictive in the country.
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Holy shit.

I hope the waitress feels good.
That's why people in Mass are called Massholes. It's a very left-wing state. I suspect the Vineyard is even worse.

A court case is needed to deal with these red flag laws. Someone needs to contact him, so it can start and make it's way all the way up to the SC.
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You'd think the waitress would be more concerned with the resource officer missing from his job out of concern for the children—but noooo. She reports the guy who was concerned for the children. On second thought, it sounds like she may have been concerned but the local govt's police over reacted.
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