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Old 07-10-2013, 03:56 PM  
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Donovan McNabb Says Stafford Hasn't Earned His Contract
Looks like McNabb is butthurt over Matt Stafford's contract.

Shut up McNabb you haven't earned your microphone.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-his-contract/


"For the second time this offseason, former NFL quarterback Donovan McNabb has weighed in on a current NFL quarterback’s contract. And for the second time, McNabb has expressed his disapproval.

In March, McNabb said Tony Romo isn’t worth the money the Cowboys have agreed to pay him. Now McNabb has weighed in on Matthew Stafford’s new contract with the Lions, and once again McNabb believes the team is overpaying."
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:02 AM   #166
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:26 AM   #167
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So throwing for 4,000 plus yards equal superstar? So, Jon Kitna was a superstar? Marc Bulger was a superstar?

Need I go on?

Too many of you guys don't use your ****ing eyes and rely on stats to make decisions on QB's.
Kitna's best year was 4200 yards, 21 TDs, 22 INTs.

Bulger' was 4300 yards, 24 TDs, and 8 INTs.

Stafford was 5,000 yards, 41 TDs, and 16 INTs...and he's 25.

Nice comparison. What are 800 more yards and 20 more TDs, really?

Stafford's best year is basically Kitna's best year plus Alex Smith's best years combined.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:56 AM   #168
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Kitna's best year was 4200 yards, 21 TDs, 22 INTs.

Bulger' was 4300 yards, 24 TDs, and 8 INTs.

Stafford was 5,000 yards, 41 TDs, and 16 INTs...and he's 25.

Nice comparison. What are 800 more yards and 20 more TDs, really?

Stafford's best year is basically Kitna's best year plus Alex Smith's best years combined.
So you don't think Detroit who is now some $85MM in guaranteed $ into Stafford didn't overpay? He had 2 years left on his 1st deal.

I am not asking anything other than do you think Stafford has earned $85MM in guaranteed $ at this point?
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:20 AM   #169
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So you don't think Detroit who is now some $85MM in guaranteed $ into Stafford didn't overpay? He had 2 years left on his 1st deal.

I am not asking anything other than do you think Stafford has earned $85MM in guaranteed $ at this point?
It's a stupid question. You don't give someone a contract for what they've earned. You pay them based on what you expect them to earn during the duration of the contract.

I expect that he will earn it, though.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:31 AM   #170
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:44 AM   #171
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It's a stupid question. You don't give someone a contract for what they've earned. You pay them based on what you expect them to earn during the duration of the contract.

I expect that he will earn it, though.
A stupid question? No not at all, plenty of people are questioning the decision to give him that deal.

As far as paying for future performance, yea all contracts have that expectation I would hope but looking at it reasonably he didn't earn the front half of the 1st contract so its not slam dunk he earns the second one.

BTW, don't you also expect we traded for Alex Smith based on what they feel he can do moving forward as well?
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:01 AM   #172
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A stupid question? No not at all, plenty of people are questioning the decision to give him that deal.

As far as paying for future performance, yea all contracts have that expectation I would hope but looking at it reasonably he didn't earn the front half of the 1st contract so its not slam dunk he earns the second one.

BTW, don't you also expect we traded for Alex Smith based on what they feel he can do moving forward as well?
Alex has been in the league for seven seasons. He has been a starter pretty much that entire time. His best TWO seasons COMBINED produced 5,494 yards and 35 TDs.

Stafford's second year in the league (just two seasons ago) produced 5,038 yards and 41 TDs.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:22 AM   #173
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I don't really have feelings either way about it. Yeah he throws for a bunch of yards, but he only averages 20 touchdowns a season. That's average. He only got the contract extension now because it's really the only thing the Lions could do given their current cap situation.
TribalWarefare I believe it was posted an interesting take on this yesterday in another thread.

He either had Stafford or Megatron and fantasy and an interesting tidbit why the touchdowns were so low was because Megatron was tackled or out of bands at the 1 yardline or 5 yardlines like 7 or 8 times.

and then they would either run it in, or just settle for a FG

he should have had at least 25+ touchdowns last season.
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Alex has been in the league for seven seasons. He has been a starter pretty much that entire time. His best TWO seasons COMBINED produced 5,494 yards and 35 TDs.

Stafford's second year in the league (just two seasons ago) produced 5,038 yards and 41 TDs.
But but but Harbaugh, checkdowns, lack of talent on the 49ers!

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Alex has been in the league for seven seasons. He has been a starter pretty much that entire time. His best TWO seasons COMBINED produced 5,494 yards and 35 TDs.

Stafford's second year in the league (just two seasons ago) produced 5,038 yards and 41 TDs.
Look, I know how his career started and he played on some shit teams. After that even though he played well he was only asked to do so much. I get that.

I also don't KNOW he has hit his ceiling. We will see as he should have instant success at least to some level in KC. Lets say his numbers should not drop off from last year and should reasonably improve in certain areas if he is what Reid thinks he is.

I don't KNOW Alex will succeed in KC, and nobody KNOWS he is going to fail. Its all conjecture at this point.

There are posts to prove it, I was a Smith supporter in 2011 and 2012 before I had any idea he was about to be benched then traded so I feel no reason to change my mind and trash the guy because he is now a Chief and CP doesn't approve.
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So are you in agreement with Alex Smith's biggest fan?

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TribalWarefare I believe it was posted an interesting take on this yesterday in another thread.

He either had Stafford or Megatron and fantasy and an interesting tidbit why the touchdowns were so low was because Megatron was tackled or out of bands at the 1 yardline or 5 yardlines like 7 or 8 times.

and then they would either run it in, or just settle for a FG

he should have had at least 25+ touchdowns last season.
Coulda woulda shoulda.

Alex Smith would have been a SB QB had his punt returner not fumbled 2x.
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