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Old 03-24-2014, 07:22 PM  
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Critics question the fatal shooting of a homeless camper
Posted: Mar 24, 2014 5:20 PM CDT
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New Mexico - Critics of the Albuquerque Police Department are raising serious questions about the fatal shooting of a homeless camper.

38-year-old James Boyd argued with police for more three hours last Sunday about illegally camping in open space.

Boyd continued to refuse officer commands and began threatening their lives causing officers to open fire.

Boyd had a violent 20-year criminal history including multiple incidents of violence against officers and years of mental health related concerns.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:17 PM   #136
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They didn't just open fire. After three hours of trying to get him to obey the law, they decided to use flash bangs and a dog. He went for a weapon. They then shot him.
So, 3 hours is your number then.

And, yes, they did open fire.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:18 PM   #137
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I guess I don't hear "booyah!" I hear an officer make some noise after the shooting, but nothing legible.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:19 PM   #138
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So, 3 hours is your number then.

And, yes, they did open fire.
Sure, that works for me.

And I wrote "just" opened fire.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:39 PM   #139
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:21 PM   #140
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I guess I don't hear "booyah!" I hear an officer make some noise after the shooting, but nothing legible.
"Booyah" is American-English.

Something to the effect of "Hell Yes".

Thought I'd help you out.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:25 PM   #141
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:27 PM   #142
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I watched it last night, but don't remember exactly why this guy was being confronted for camping out on public land... is there a law against camping or being homeless?

Well, apparently it is perfectly legal to live in a refrigerator box in the city but if you are camping on Public Lands, little Buffy might come into contact with the vagrant and it will upset her. Can't have that now can we?

Back when I was a teenager (in the 60s) and everyone was hitching - the Cops would occasionally stop you, ask for ID and see if you had any money. If you didn't have any cash (to prove you had a means of support) they would either run you in for a night or two or take you to the edge of town and tell you to get lost. Guess now they just shoot you and are done with it? How times change.......
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:30 PM   #143
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"Booyah" is American-English.

Something to the effect of "Hell Yes".

Thought I'd help you out.
Yes, I knew that. But like I said, I didn't hear that word said legibly.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:31 PM   #144
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Well, apparently it is perfectly legal to live in a refrigerator box in the city but if you are camping on Public Lands, little Buffy might come into contact with the vagrant and it will upset her. Can't have that now can we?

Back when I was a teenager (in the 60s) and everyone was hitching - the Cops would occasionally stop you, ask for ID and see if you had any money. If you didn't have any cash (to prove you had a means of support) they would either run you in for a night or two or take you to the edge of town and tell you to get lost. Guess now they just shoot you and are done with it? How times change.......
In both those scenarios, I presume that you didn't argue with the cops for three hours....
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:56 PM   #145
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Well, apparently it is perfectly legal to live in a refrigerator box in the city but if you are camping on Public Lands, little Buffy might come into contact with the vagrant and it will upset her. Can't have that now can we?

Back when I was a teenager (in the 60s) and everyone was hitching - the Cops would occasionally stop you, ask for ID and see if you had any money. If you didn't have any cash (to prove you had a means of support) they would either run you in for a night or two or take you to the edge of town and tell you to get lost. Guess now they just shoot you and are done with it? How times change.......


Ya that's what they did to John Rambo & look what happened. That makes all the sense for them to shoot him now & not deal with him any more.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:05 PM   #146
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:23 PM   #147
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In both those scenarios, I presume that you didn't argue with the cops for three hours....
I work 10 hour days. My first break is 3 hours. So they decide it is donut time and need to kill this guy so they don't miss their break.
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That's a straight up execution. He only pulled out knives AFTER they did the flashbang or whatever and even THEN he turned and RAN before they gunned him down. ****ed up. However the BART incident was a lot worse and a couple other ones from the last couple years. Sorry, but **** all cops.
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Right or wrong, public lands camping or whatever.. suspect turned and ran, was shot ATLEAST twice in the back, said "please don't hurt me" while face down and shot up.

Was then shot again with beanbags twice in the back as he lay dying... mother ****er... I swear I hear stories like CC has told here and I've heard similar things personal cop friends about lesser incidents and how those incidents challenged them.

Cops have, in many ways, have an incredibly thankless and dangerous job that no one truly appreciates until they're right there in it... but closing ranks over some obvious bs like this is just another brick in the wall.

Defend your own for sure, there are STILL a bunch of great cops out there... but choose your battles wisely.

Don't be one of these guys goin BOOYAH... or you will lose our support forever.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:06 AM   #150
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For like 3 secs. I guess you win on that one.

I guess they did wait to shoot him with the bean bags until after they told him to drop the knives and he responded with "I can't move."

I would LOVE to get a look at the autopsy (after viewing the video). It seems fairly obvious to me that the hero with the video camera shoots him twice in the back - perhaps in the spine. Of course when the guy hits the ground he can't move. His spine has most likely been severed and he is dying.

Real American Heroes. You know, I would like to believe that there are good cops out there, but I'm starting to have my doubts. God, I wish I didn't feel this way, but unfortunately I do.
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