Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 438

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Chiefspants · 07-04-2013, 04:41 PM

Just dropping in to report that Kottaras is currently batting .157 with a .710 OPS.

Carry on.

Pitt Gorilla · 07-04-2013, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier

Don't see how you can't be impressed as hell with Royals fans.

This. We've been there through absolute garbage for the past 25+ years. It's easy to be a fan of a winning program.

Discuss Thrower · 07-04-2013, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

This. We've been there through absolute garbage for the past 25+ years. It's easy to be a fan of a winning program.

Apparently the home run derby is sacred.. Or something.

Ceej · 07-04-2013, 09:59 PM

Didn't the Orioles get swept by the White Sux?

Mr. Laz · 07-04-2013, 10:08 PM

2013 Payrolls And Salaries For Every MLB Team
BARRY PETCHESKY
3/29/13 11:02am

It's that time of the year. Time to unveil MLB's opening day payrolls, and laugh at the teams spending like drunkards (Yankees, $229 million) and the ones fielding quadruple-A rosters (Astros, $24 million). Let's dive in.

Click on the cities in the map above for each roster's individual player salaries. (If you have trouble finding the annotation, just search this page for the team name, and you'll find it in the discussion section below. You can also search for individual players' names.) http://deadspin.com/2013-payrolls-an...team-462765594

Here's the list of total team payrolls (the figure is the adjusted payroll, which takes into account cash received in trades, prorated signing bonuses, and other tweaks):

New York Yankees $228,995,945
Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909
Philadelphia $159,578,214
Boston $158,967,286
Detroit $149,046,844
San Francisco $142,180,333
Los Angeles Angels $142,165,250
Texas $127,197,575
Chicago White Sox $124,065,277
Toronto $118,244,039
St. Louis $116,702,085
Washington $112,431,770
Cincinnati $110,565,728
Chicago Cubs $104,150,726
Baltimore $91,793,333
Milwaukee $91,003,366
Arizona $90,158,500
Atlanta $89,288,193
New York Mets $88,877,033
Seattle $84,295,952
Cleveland $82,517,300
Kansas City $80,491,725
Minnesota $75,562,500
Colorado $75,449,071
San Diego $71,689,900
Oakland $68,577,000
Pittsburgh $66,289,524
Tampa Bay $57,030,272
Miami $39,621,900
Houston $24,328,538

Takeaways: A-Rod will make more than the Astros. The Dodgers will likely pass the Yankees for the top spot next year. Miami cut its payroll from last season by more than 60 percent. The Blue Jays will field $37 million worth of Marlins. Arizona's highest-paid player is a setup guy. Among the NL favorites, the Braves, Nationals, and Reds all show the importance of home-grown pitching—while the Giants have reached the phase where they've had to pay top-dollar to keep their aces.

Astros manager Bo Porter had this to say:

"When we get on the baseball field with whomever the opponent is, they are not sitting there saying: `Well, their players make more money than us so therefore you're deemed a winner and we're deemed a loser.'"

This is true. It's also true that Houston could lose 110 games this year.

Brianfo · 07-04-2013, 10:09 PM

I posted in the game thread as well. But thank you royals. I brought my family down to last nights game(Sat thru the rain delay) and watched a Royals victory. As we were leaving this mrng the Mrs. challenged me. She said, "Shall we go to the game today." I took the bait. Put it to a family vote 5-0. Watched the game while she kept the kids busy. In the sixth inning I went out and got them all. Told them we were leaving after the inning if we didn't score. You all know what happened. Probably the greatest game ever that I have seen in person.

We probably will never compete with Detroit, or win a Division but Thank you Royals for making me root for you and believe. We are home now and all 3 of my kids are wearing their KC Royals hats with the RWB KC.

Greatest 4th ever.

AussieChiefsFan · 07-05-2013, 06:45 AM

Good to get as many wins as possible while we still can. We've got a tough couple series coming up after this one.

Prison Bitch · 07-05-2013, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Takeaways: A-Rod will make more than the Astros.

To not play.

Infidel Goat · 07-05-2013, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Good to get as many wins as possible while we still can. We've got a tough couple series coming up after this one.

20 of our 25 games this month are against teams over .500. If we can be close to .500 at the end of the month things lighten up for August (18 of 30 games against sub. 500 teams).

Lots of games against Cleveland, Detroit and Seattle (for whatever reason) in September. I hope the fact that we are playing two series with the Mariners in September means Cleveland and Detroit have two series against Oakland and Texas.

Archie F. Swin · 07-05-2013, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Just dropping in to report that Kottaras is currently batting .157 with a .710 OPS.

Carry on.

dude is cool as a cucumber

Cephalic Trauma · 07-05-2013, 09:29 AM

Herrera went 3.1 innings of no hit ball with 7 K's and two BB.

Are they stretching him out to start?

AndChiefs · 07-05-2013, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Herrera went 3.1 innings of no hit ball with 7 K's and two BB.

Are they stretching him out to start?

No, they said they were trying to get him as much work as possible to try to work out the kinks quicker.

Cephalic Trauma · 07-05-2013, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndChiefs

No, they said they were trying to get him as much work as possible to try to work out the kinks quicker.

Not sure if srs. If so, is that common practice?

WhawhaWhat · 07-05-2013, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndChiefs

No, they said they were trying to get him as much work as possible to try to work out the kinks quicker.

I think they also want him to realize that he can throw a 97 mph fastball with movement to get major league hitters out instead of a 101 mph straight fastball that gets blasted 420 feet.

AndChiefs · 07-05-2013, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Not sure if srs. If so, is that common practice?

I've never heard of it before but I seem to remember reading it somewhere earlier in the thread.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1780308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	2013 Payrolls And Salaries For Every MLB Team BARRY PETCHESKY 3/29/13 11:02am It's that time of the year. Time to unveil MLB's opening day payrolls, and laugh at the teams spending like drunkards (Yankees, $229 million) and the ones fielding quadruple-A rosters (Astros, $24 million). Let's dive in. Click on the cities in the map above for each roster's individual player salaries. (If you have trouble finding the annotation, just search this page for the team name, and you'll find it in the discussion section below. You can also search for individual players' names.) http://deadspin.com/2013-payrolls-an...team-462765594 Here's the list of total team payrolls (the figure is the adjusted payroll, which takes into account cash received in trades, prorated signing bonuses, and other tweaks): New York Yankees $228,995,945 Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909 Philadelphia $159,578,214 Boston $158,967,286 Detroit $149,046,844 San Francisco $142,180,333 Los Angeles Angels $142,165,250 Texas $127,197,575 Chicago White Sox $124,065,277 Toronto $118,244,039 St. Louis $116,702,085 Washington $112,431,770 Cincinnati $110,565,728 Chicago Cubs $104,150,726 Baltimore $91,793,333 Milwaukee $91,003,366 Arizona $90,158,500 Atlanta $89,288,193 New York Mets $88,877,033 Seattle $84,295,952 Cleveland $82,517,300 Kansas City $80,491,725 Minnesota $75,562,500 Colorado $75,449,071 San Diego $71,689,900 Oakland $68,577,000 Pittsburgh $66,289,524 Tampa Bay $57,030,272 Miami $39,621,900 Houston $24,328,538 Takeaways: A-Rod will make more than the Astros. The Dodgers will likely pass the Yankees for the top spot next year. Miami cut its payroll from last season by more than 60 percent. The Blue Jays will field $37 million worth of Marlins. Arizona's highest-paid player is a setup guy. Among the NL favorites, the Braves, Nationals, and Reds all show the importance of home-grown pitching—while the Giants have reached the phase where they've had to pay top-dollar to keep their aces. Astros manager Bo Porter had this to say: "When we get on the baseball field with whomever the opponent is, they are not sitting there saying: `Well, their players make more money than us so therefore you're deemed a winner and we're deemed a loser.'" This is true. It's also true that Houston could lose 110 games this year. __________________
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07-04-2013, 10:09 PM	#6561
Brianfo Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Casino cash: $10004900	I posted in the game thread as well. But thank you royals. I brought my family down to last nights game(Sat thru the rain delay) and watched a Royals victory. As we were leaving this mrng the Mrs. challenged me. She said, "Shall we go to the game today." I took the bait. Put it to a family vote 5-0. Watched the game while she kept the kids busy. In the sixth inning I went out and got them all. Told them we were leaving after the inning if we didn't score. You all know what happened. Probably the greatest game ever that I have seen in person. We probably will never compete with Detroit, or win a Division but Thank you Royals for making me root for you and believe. We are home now and all 3 of my kids are wearing their KC Royals hats with the RWB KC. Greatest 4th ever.
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Cephalic Trauma Permitted Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	Herrera went 3.1 innings of no hit ball with 7 K's and two BB. Are they stretching him out to start?
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