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Old 07-19-2018, 09:01 AM  
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:42 PM   #91
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I really enjoyed my time from mid 1996 to early 2002 living in San Fran for the first 2 years and Mountain View for the remainder but I'd be damned to ever live there again. They truly have crossed the Rubicon in my opinion and not sure they will ever come back. Still beautiful place but damn they are nuts.
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:44 PM   #92
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I really enjoyed my time from mid 1996 to early 2002 living in San Fran for the first 2 years and Mountain View for the remainder

you shouldve waited 3 or 4 more years to cash out...
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:50 PM   #93
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Well, there are a lot of arguments against what you are saying


1) its not certain they are here illegally, as the measure specifices 'non citizens' which would include a lot of people here legally as well, who just arent citizens


2) there are study after study showing that illegals pay more into taxes than they get back out...but I won't even argue that point


3) whats for sure is local residents (even illegal) DO pay rent and therefore contribute to property taxes which fund local schools


4) the children of these people attend these local schools, legally


5) schools actually want more participation , by parents in these things ...not less

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there is a reasonable argument that these parents whose children legally go to these schools can and should have a very minor say in what goes on at the school...since their children go there, they pay (indirectly) the property taxes, and their input is desired by the schools




thats all I am saying. Its a reasonable position....its not some chicken little sky is falling scenario
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• Public education is a $423 billion business.
•School boards have taxing authority.
•Direct oversight—and responsibility—should not be given to politicians whose first priority is something other than education.



If they want a say, become a citizen. Or go somewhere where they are a citizen.
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:54 PM   #94
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Your school board is your community’s education watchdog, ensuring that taxpayers get the most for their tax dollars.
1• Public education is a $423 billion business.
2•School boards have taxing authority.
3•Direct oversight—and responsibility—should not be given to politicians whose first priority is something other than education.

If they want a say, become a citizen. Or go somewhere where they are a citizen.

1) this is true, and has nothing to do with school boards. I actually think something should be done about this. I am pro voucher and charter schools


2) I dont think that is true, at least where I live. Any increase in taxes is put to a general vote - and not a school board vote.


3) this is vague, and meaningless. Basically what youre saying is that schoolboards are not the most effective way to oversee a school. That is fine, I have no problem with that point of view but thats not the system we have now and I have not heard of any other alternative other than privatization...again..which is another argument altogther
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:58 PM   #95
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1) this is true, and has nothing to do with school boards. I actually think something should be done about this. I am pro voucher and charter schools


2) I dont think that is true, at least where I live. Any increase in taxes is put to a general vote - and not a school board vote.


3) this is vague, and meaningless. Basically what youre saying is that schoolboards are not the most effective way to oversee a school. That is fine, I have no problem with that point of view but thats not the system we have now and I have not heard of any other alternative other than privatization...again..which is another argument altogther
Its from the National School Board Association website. I'm not saying it. They are. And you are not particularly good at putting words in my mouth, or theirs.

https://www.nsba.org/about-us/what-school-boards-do
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Old 07-19-2018, 02:04 PM   #96
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Its from the National School Board Association website. I'm not saying it. They are. And you are not particularly good at putting words in my mouth, or theirs.

https://www.nsba.org/about-us/what-school-boards-do

a school board cannot unilaterally place a tax on me


they may be able to request one....but any new tax would have to be voted on by the community at large, in an election prior to implementation (in the elections where you DO have to be a citizen to vote)


I dont care what they wrote on their website
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Old 07-19-2018, 02:06 PM   #97
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And why would anyone who is a supposed conservative even give a shit if SF decides that involving more parents in school board elections is what is best for THEM? I thought conservatives supported local rights to make decisions?


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Old 07-19-2018, 02:09 PM   #98
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"American citizens should determine American law and policy not illegal aliens."


I didnt realize that school boards were determinining american law...I just thought they dealt with issues of that local school in that disctrict where those people live


I also didnt realize that all 'non citizens' were 'illegal aliens' but thank you for your clearly educated comments


and thank you for showing that you desire the federal government and others to interfere with local school boards and how they operate


that shows you to be a true conservative
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So if 1 "non-citizen" is here legally them they all must be here legally by your reasoning. In my educated comments local issues are usually determined by local policy which is shaped by local government and having "non-citizens" voting alters local governments. And I don't want "non-citizens" involved any more than I want the feds involved. Local CITIZENS should determine local policy, no one else
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Huh, I always thought the hallmark of conservative political philosophy is local governments determining policies best suited for their local populace. SF's local population (of citizens!) voted for this policy of allowing non-citizens a say in school board elections.

As a conservative, if you disagree, seems like you should...not vote for this local policy where you live?

Like I said earlier, it's hilarious to see small government conservatives triggered out of their minds by San Francisco citizens making a decision about how their city should be run.
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San Francisco continues to spend big in fight against homelessness -- but is it working?



It’s a problem that’s costing the city of San Francisco hundreds of millions of dollars annually to try to solve – and for its new mayor, something that's starting to become increasingly smelly too.
London Breed says the amount of feces scattered on the streets of the wealthy city in recent months is among the worst she has ever seen, and San Francisco reportedly is set to spend nearly $280 million in its next budget fighting homelessness – an average of $37,300 for each of the city’s estimated 7,499 homeless residents.

"I will say there is more feces on the sidewalks than I’ve ever seen growing up here," Breed, who was sworn in last week, said days later in an NBC Bay Area interview. She added that outreach groups funded by the city need to do a better job making sure the homeless clean up trash and waste from bodily functions they sometimes leave behind.

"That is a huge problem and we are not just talking about from dogs — we’re talking about from humans,” she said.

San Francisco in recent years is reported to have spent $241 million and $275 million from annual budgets on homeless outreach services and programs, most of which, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, involve supportive housing units that get people off the streets. For the first time, the city’s overall budget this year will top $11 billion, the Chronicle reported.

But for all the money San Francisco is throwing at the complex issue, the number of people living on the streets appears to be staying the same, according to data from a homeless count survey conducted last year citywide.

Out of the 7,499 homeless people recorded last year, about 58 percent, or 4,353 people, were marked as unsheltered. The other 3,146 were designated sheltered.

In 2015, when the homeless population was estimated to be 7,539, there were 4,358 unsheltered compared to 3,181 sheltered. And in data going back to 2013, when the homeless population was estimated to be 7,350, there were 4,315 sheltered compared to 3,035 sheltered.

“We got a lot of means to interact with folks and talk to folks but we don’t have the means to keep them in homes,” Dayton Andrews, a human rights organizer with the San Francisco-based Coalition on Homelessness advocacy group, told Fox News. “We spend a lot of money but we don’t have a clear picture of all the different issues that these social services need to solve.”

The most recent homeless count survey says about half of the city’s homeless population is clustered in one northeast district that includes city hall, the San Francisco Giants’ AT&T Park, and the corporate offices of companies such as Twitter and Uber.

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