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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-13-2013, 09:31 AM   #1501
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8-8 is a serious push for the playoffs?
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75% of the teams that went 8-8 or better (the escalator in the AS trade) qualified for the playoffs last year. All of them were in a serious push for the playoffs.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:33 AM   #1502
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I can understand that, but you are not 15 anymore. You should appreciate that just because "you missed" on one assessment in the past and "your boy" failed... that doesn't mean that every other move made will fail.

This is a quitter's mentality. Remember when you were 14, and a girl broke your heart? Did you forever after give up on the fairer sex and become parthenogenetic?
My comment had nothing to do with me "missing" an assessment and feeling bad about it, and everything to do with comparing your argument, sentiments and stance to one I took when I was 15 years old and knew jack sh*t.

Or, to put it simply: You're as big a homer for Alex Smith right now as I was for Elvis Grbac when I was a high school freshman who didn't know any better.

It's not about me. It's about you, buddy.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:34 AM   #1503
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My comment had nothing to do with me "missing" an assessment and feeling bad about it, and everything to do with comparing your argument, sentiments and stance to one I took when I was 15 years old and knew jack sh*t.

Or, to put it simply: You're as big a homer for Alex Smith right now as I was for Elvis Grbac when I was a high school freshman who didn't know any better.

It's not about me. It's about you, buddy.
Maybe it's about you. Maybe you were wrong then and you're still wrong now.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:36 AM   #1504
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Alex Smith is gonna be better next year than any rookie QB. And if we give up a 2nd next year it would mean we made a serious push for the playoffs.
I'd consider a first year situation like that being a huge success coming off what happened last year.
8-8 is= to a "serious push for the playoffs" in your mind?

JFC. are you serious?
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:37 AM   #1505
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We go 8-8 and we are in the playoff race a couple weeks into December.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:38 AM   #1506
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8-8 is= to a "serious push for the playoffs" in your mind?

JFC. are you serious?
I think it depends on how you get there. If you were 8-5 and lost your last 3 you made a push. If you are 5-8 and win your last 3 then you won some meaningless games and were never in contention. But with what the Chiefs are doing 8-8 is a failure regardless of how you get there.

If you are only starting 2-3 rookie/2nd year guys you need to be making the playoffs.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:39 AM   #1507
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This is just comical now.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:39 AM   #1508
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I think it depends on how you get there. If you were 8-5 and lost your last 3 you made a push. If you are 5-8 and win your last 3 then you won some meaningless games and were never in contention.
This is a good point.
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We trade for a 29 year old 8 year vet and 8-8 is still our aim. .
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So is your death grip on the 8-8 thing as if Andy Reid wants to get to 8 wins and then shut it down for the season.
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8-8 shouldn't even be a part of the conversation when you make a move like that. A winning season should be automatic. Playoffs should be a minimum when you makethat kind of trade. The fact that people are justifying 8-8 is sad.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:45 AM   #1513
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give us one good reason why a team that wanted alex smith last year wouldnt have just made an offer?


oh because the niners wanted him back, thats right.


and thats how free agency works in the nfl, right?
Because GMs of pro sports teams are altruists looking out to help opposing teams.

Don't you remember how Baltimore passed on signing Dumervil after Elvis said he wanted to play for the Miami Dolphins, his hometown team?

No?

No, because you are not stupid.
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I also find it funny that Patteeu has more posts about the Chiefs after the Alex Smith trade than he had all of last year and probably in all his years on CP combined. He's like one of the 49ers trolls.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:47 AM   #1515
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Yeah, because signing Kevin Kolb, or Carson Palmer, or sticking with Blaine Gabbert, are moves that should go over smooth as silk with any fan base.
For how many 2nd round draft picks?
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