Chiefs How Important Is An Interior Pass Rusher In Today's NFL? - Page 3

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 10:01 AM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...6-a9d552687f9e

Cool article on the KC Chiefs website on a guy I believe will the next All Pro player on our defense. The Chiefs "finally" seem to now be pushing Mike Catapano on KCChiefs.com and I'm very glad to see that because it means that we will see what he can do in 2014. I have been singing this kid's praises since pre season because i feel he is a very talented key piece for this defense but was frustrated watching him sit on the sidelines. I truly believe that having a dominant pass rushing presence on the line (whether it be from 3 technique or 5 technique...or better yet BOTH) is HUGE in making a good defense into a great defense.

People downplay QB pressure and it drives me nuts. You CANNOT stop Peyton Manning (or Philip Rivers or Andrew Luck for that matter) without knocking them off their spots. Just look at the production and the sack totals our defense had the first half of last year and the results it created in the win-loss column...thats because there IS a direct correlation! Also our dominant edge rushers will be more effective when the O Line also has an inside 3 technique rusher they have to worry about as well.

An athletic 290 lbs Catapano who can rush from inside or the outside creates versatility on passing downs. Teamed up with Houston and Hali I really believe all 3 will have double digit sacks in 2014. All today's defenses are really becoming a hybrid blend of 3-4 and 4-3 fronts and a lineman who can rush is a key part. We didn't have that last year (or had on sidelines but didn't use it). I like the addition of Walker but he isnt a true pass rusher...Catapano is. Personally I'd rather see Cat as the starting DE opposite Devito if at 290 he proves to be an effective run stopper, but either way I believe he is a key piece for us in an effective 4 man front on passing downs.

As with all KC fans I was a bit frustrated watching the NFL's most dominant defense slide and become our achilles heel ultimately costing us a playoff win. With no pressure on the QB the second half of year I was frustrated knowing we had a guy who averaged 1.2 sacks a game his senior year sitting on the sidelines. But apparently he was being groomed and making the obvious transition going from a small school to the NFL. Based on all the press coming from inside the Chiefs organization I'm encouraged that we will get to see what a 23 year old 2nd year bigger and better #77 can do.

I said it last year and still believe that Catapano and Poe rushing alongside Houston and Hali will be a VERY disruptive front on passing downs. 3 double digits sack guys = defensive success. Pressure busts pipes. If Catapano can break out and have a double digit sack season it will go a LONG way in getting back to the playoffs and NOT giving up a 4 TD lead. We need a 2013 defensive draft picks like Commings or Cat (or both) to step up and become key contributors in 2014 to build and improve on what we did last year. Since we aren't building through free agency it has to come from within. This guy stepping up would be huge.

BullJunkandIron · 04-03-2014, 11:17 AM

When we got that 28 point lead Indy had us just where they wanted us.

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58

I found 1

'84 Bears The year they got 72 as a team.
Richard Dent 17.5
Steve McMichael 10.0
Dan Hampton 11.5
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/chi/1984.htm

I would love to go back to some of the old-timer teams of the Rams,Giants, Bears and Packers but we all know they didn't start keeping this stat till '82.

Good find! So if the 2014 Chiefs become the 2nd team to do it just remember you heard it here first

lol....until then continue to make fun of me I guess.

**Dave Lane** · 04-03-2014, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

yes...all 3. This is my prediction. And IF it happens then we will win alot of games!

IF someone finds a way to reverse the aging process and we get a 20 year old Joe Montana I think we will win alot of games!

htismaqe · 04-03-2014, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

Good find! So if the 2014 Chiefs become the 2nd team to do it just remember you heard it here first

lol....until then continue to make fun of me I guess.

Self-deprecating humor is always welcome here...

Mr. Laz · 04-03-2014, 11:23 AM

interior or outside doesn't really matter as much as having guys that can get pressure/penetration without stunts and blitzes.

The more guys that can just 'win' the 1-on-1 battles the better. It makes the defense versatile and allows you to keep the offense off balance.

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

IF someone finds a way to reverse the aging process and we get a 20 year old Joe Montana I think we will win alot of games!

This is just silly....now you are just being a pessimist. Believe

we can DO it! Hopefully if we win a playoff game the vibe gets a bit more positive in here.

I guess 25 years without a playoff win kinda does that.

htismaqe · 04-03-2014, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

This is just silly....now you are just being a pessimist. Believe

we can DO it! Hopefully if we win a playoff game the vibe gets a bit more positive in here.

I guess 25 years without a playoff win kinda does that.

It hasn't been QUITE that long...

DTLB58 · 04-03-2014, 11:38 AM

Closest Chiefs season I've found was '92
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/kan/1992.htm

DT 14.5
Neil Smith 14.5
Dan Saleaumua 6.0

The average age of The '84 Bears and the Chief players here are 26. Hali will turn 31 in November.
I don't think there are to many more seasons where we can just expect double digit sacks from him.

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It hasn't been QUITE that long...

See now I'm being the pessimist

its true 1994...so 20 years. Hopefully the drought ends this year.

keg in kc · 04-03-2014, 11:43 AM

I've always believed inside is more valuable than outside, you just don't see it as much because it's a lot harder to find and, I think, a lot harder to execute.

What you really want is both, of course.

htismaqe · 04-03-2014, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

See now I'm being the pessimist

its true 1994...so 20 years. Hopefully the drought ends this year.

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58

Closest Chiefs season I've found was '92
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/kan/1992.htm

DT 14.5
Neil Smith 14.5
Dan Saleaumua 6.0

Well we know Houston and Hali if healthy will get 10 at a bare minimum. So we need one more to make Chiefs history. As unlikely as it might be it doesn't seem all that unreasonable from Catapano. I dont see anybody else who can do it. Poe no, Walker no, Bailey def no. Catapano has the skill set so maybe. Just went and looked on his social media page and his post today makes me think its possible. I like the kid's confidence. Only time will tell but 3 double digit sack guys would be pretty cool. Especially since its something that has never been done by a Chief's team.

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

lol....NO!!!

We will win a playoff game in 2014!!!

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I've always believed inside is more valuable than outside, you just don't see it as much because it's a lot harder to find and, I think, a lot harder to execute.

What you really want is both, of course.

Exactly!!

this is why we should all root for this kid to breakout

**MahiMike** · 04-03-2014, 01:29 PM

We're from Missouri. ..

04-03-2014, 10:01 AM
SeeingRed Veteran Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10011193	How Important Is An Interior Pass Rusher In Today's NFL? http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...6-a9d552687f9e Cool article on the KC Chiefs website on a guy I believe will the next All Pro player on our defense. The Chiefs "finally" seem to now be pushing Mike Catapano on KCChiefs.com and I'm very glad to see that because it means that we will see what he can do in 2014. I have been singing this kid's praises since pre season because i feel he is a very talented key piece for this defense but was frustrated watching him sit on the sidelines. I truly believe that having a dominant pass rushing presence on the line (whether it be from 3 technique or 5 technique...or better yet BOTH) is HUGE in making a good defense into a great defense. People downplay QB pressure and it drives me nuts. You CANNOT stop Peyton Manning (or Philip Rivers or Andrew Luck for that matter) without knocking them off their spots. Just look at the production and the sack totals our defense had the first half of last year and the results it created in the win-loss column...thats because there IS a direct correlation! Also our dominant edge rushers will be more effective when the O Line also has an inside 3 technique rusher they have to worry about as well. An athletic 290 lbs Catapano who can rush from inside or the outside creates versatility on passing downs. Teamed up with Houston and Hali I really believe all 3 will have double digit sacks in 2014. All today's defenses are really becoming a hybrid blend of 3-4 and 4-3 fronts and a lineman who can rush is a key part. We didn't have that last year (or had on sidelines but didn't use it). I like the addition of Walker but he isnt a true pass rusher...Catapano is. Personally I'd rather see Cat as the starting DE opposite Devito if at 290 he proves to be an effective run stopper, but either way I believe he is a key piece for us in an effective 4 man front on passing downs. As with all KC fans I was a bit frustrated watching the NFL's most dominant defense slide and become our achilles heel ultimately costing us a playoff win. With no pressure on the QB the second half of year I was frustrated knowing we had a guy who averaged 1.2 sacks a game his senior year sitting on the sidelines. But apparently he was being groomed and making the obvious transition going from a small school to the NFL. Based on all the press coming from inside the Chiefs organization I'm encouraged that we will get to see what a 23 year old 2nd year bigger and better #77 can do. I said it last year and still believe that Catapano and Poe rushing alongside Houston and Hali will be a VERY disruptive front on passing downs. 3 double digits sack guys = defensive success. Pressure busts pipes. If Catapano can break out and have a double digit sack season it will go a LONG way in getting back to the playoffs and NOT giving up a 4 TD lead. We need a 2013 defensive draft picks like Commings or Cat (or both) to step up and become key contributors in 2014 to build and improve on what we did last year. Since we aren't building through free agency it has to come from within. This guy stepping up would be huge.
Posts: 1,821

04-03-2014, 11:17 AM	#31
BullJunkandIron Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NEMO Casino cash: $10014823	When we got that 28 point lead Indy had us just where they wanted us.
Posts: 945

04-03-2014, 11:23 AM	#35
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	interior or outside doesn't really matter as much as having guys that can get pressure/penetration without stunts and blitzes. The more guys that can just 'win' the 1-on-1 battles the better. It makes the defense versatile and allows you to keep the offense off balance. __________________
Posts: 95,626

04-03-2014, 11:38 AM	#38
DTLB58 DT CARD COLLECTOR Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ManCave Casino cash: $10005837	Closest Chiefs season I've found was '92 http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/kan/1992.htm DT 14.5 Neil Smith 14.5 Dan Saleaumua 6.0 The average age of The '84 Bears and the Chief players here are 26. Hali will turn 31 in November. I don't think there are to many more seasons where we can just expect double digit sacks from him. __________________ 667 Different DT cards and counting Last edited by DTLB58; 04-03-2014 at 11:48 AM.. Reason: Add stats.
Posts: 7,574

04-03-2014, 11:43 AM	#40
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I've always believed inside is more valuable than outside, you just don't see it as much because it's a lot harder to find and, I think, a lot harder to execute. What you really want is both, of course.
Posts: 58,682

04-03-2014, 01:29 PM	#45
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	We're from Missouri. .. __________________ 99.9%
Posts: 17,387