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Old 04-19-2017, 04:39 AM  
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Holy DAMN! Aaron Hernandez dead in his jail cell

http://www.kshb.com/news/national/aa...d-in-jail-cell


Former NFL star Aaron Hernandez was found dead in his jail cell early Wednesday morning, according to the Massachusetts Department of Corrections.
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:47 PM   #136
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So they'd have to actually put on a trial instead of doing so via motion, I suspect.

As has been noted - the evidence in the Lloyd case was overwhelming. If there's money anywhere to be had, the civil attorneys will still be able to secure a civil judgment.
Again, I am just a caveman who's scared of your modern ways. All I know is that in Mass. If you had an appeal pending at the time of your death and after conviction the case reverts to it's original state of implied innocence. The guy I was listening to was from The Boston Globe and said it makes a civil case much more difficult to win.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:10 PM   #137
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Apparently he wrote John 3:16 on his forehead in blood before the suicide.

Or depending on your conspiracy theory the guards did before the homicide.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:16 PM   #138
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Because his murder conviction is in appeal, and his recent gun charge will go into appeal...now that he is dead, those appeals cannot be heard and those convictions will be vacated. And while this doesn't help with the civil suits his family/estate will face from the victims families, it does make it so that officially Aaron Hernandez does not have any convictions under his name.

Now what that means in the grand scheme of things is his family is now technically entitled to his NFL pension, his signing bonus and any other money the Patriots owe him. Thus, Hernandez convictions will be vacated now, he is no longer a felon and is owed his nfl pension, his signing bonus and more money that will all technically go to his family.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:24 PM   #139
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Because his murder conviction is in appeal, and his recent gun charge will go into appeal...now that he is dead, those appeals cannot be heard and those convictions will be vacated. And while this doesn't help with the civil suits his family/estate will face from the victims families, it does make it so that officially Aaron Hernandez does not have any convictions under his name.

Now what that means in the grand scheme of things is his family is now technically entitled to his NFL pension, his signing bonus and any other money the Patriots owe him. Thus, Hernandez convictions will be vacated now, he is no longer a felon and is owed his nfl pension, his signing bonus and more money that will all technically go to his family.
I doubt that signing bonus does; wasn't he suspended indefinitely? I'd have to think that, if nothing else, conduct clauses would kick in that would trigger on any breach of contract action. Or it would get treated like a retirement where any 'unearned' bonus can be recaptured.

Then pension's an interesting animal, presuming it vested.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:39 PM   #140
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:44 PM   #141
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Not a great show for moral absolutists, tho.

It's a good show.

The first season had me hooked. I'm about halfway through the second now. I'm not liking that basically all of the main players from the first season are... wayward.. but it looks like they're coming back together soon.

I've heard season 4 is, like, best shit in TV history type stuff so I'll stick it out.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:50 PM   #142
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Meh **** him. Saves us money to keep his wannabe gangster coward ass alive.
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:29 PM   #143
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It's a good show.

The first season had me hooked. I'm about halfway through the second now. I'm not liking that basically all of the main players from the first season are... wayward.. but it looks like they're coming back together soon.

I've heard season 4 is, like, best shit in TV history type stuff so I'll stick it out.
Dang, had no idea. You should check out this show called Webster too, j/k.

Season 1 is an all timer for me, but they all have moments of greatness.
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:39 PM   #144
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Where are you guys getting this from? Link please.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...pvJ/story.html

Though Hernandez was convicted in 2015 of murdering Odin L. Lloyd of Boston, Hernandez’s appeal was not complete. Abatement ab initio means “from the beginning,” Healy said, and it means that upon a person’s death, if they have not exhausted their legal appeals, their case reverts to its status at the beginning — it’s as if the trial and conviction never happened.

“Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won’t be any real closure,” said Healy. “Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man.”
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:43 PM   #145
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Because his murder conviction is in appeal, and his recent gun charge will go into appeal...now that he is dead, those appeals cannot be heard and those convictions will be vacated. And while this doesn't help with the civil suits his family/estate will face from the victims families, it does make it so that officially Aaron Hernandez does not have any convictions under his name.

Now what that means in the grand scheme of things is his family is now technically entitled to his NFL pension, his signing bonus and any other money the Patriots owe him. Thus, Hernandez convictions will be vacated now, he is no longer a felon and is owed his nfl pension, his signing bonus and more money that will all technically go to his family.
He gets a pension too?

That helps his family, since I heard he was out of money.
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:45 PM   #146
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He gets a pension too?

That helps his family, since I heard he was out of money.
He needs something for his old age.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:15 PM   #147
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We were about to bring him in for a look.
Probably why he ended it.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:18 PM   #148
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In true Patriots' fashion, he exploited a loophole in the rules that allowed him to cut a life sentence down to only five years.
Holy shit!!!!
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:28 PM   #149
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How did a guy as tall and heavy as Hernandez hang himself from a cell window with a sheet?
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