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Coogs · 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM

Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn.

I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week.

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards.

Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards.

The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills.

Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily.

The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together.

Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players.

3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down.

3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down.

3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured.

Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD.

That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them.

I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.

jspchief · 09-03-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

BTW

If you take those numbers and extrapolate them over the course of 16 games, you get:

4,407 total yards (WOW)
3793 passing yards
561 rushing yards
53 receiving yards (thank you, Ronde)
32 total touchdowns
17 interceptions

Couple that with our defense, and it would be a fun year.

Gimmick or not.

Go ahead and check my math...

Extrapolate the number of wins over 16 games.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Thank you sir!

We are going at this just like the Vikings did. Build the team first, and it is damn hard to find the QB. A washed up Favre is how they finally went. Got the same result we did with Montana many moons ago.

Quinn has some tools. That was obvious Thursday with the #1's and even with the #2's on that second drive. There was a lot of beauty in both of those.

If we go rookie next year, it is probably 4 more years until Super Bowl time. Maybe 5.

If you go castoff from some othe team... like the Seahawks did with Flynn.

We have tried that eleventy billion times in the past without much avail.

This guy came here because he wanted too. Not for more money. Not because of a trade. Because he wanted too. My gut tells me because he knows he is better than Cassel.

I think this team is set up for a good rookie to take over and flourish ala Ben Rothlisberger.

I dont think its gonna take 4 or 5 years to get there.

We arent that many pieces off, right now, if you cross off QB.

Even a rookie.

ILChief · 09-03-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I think this team is set up for a good rookie to take over and flourish ala Ben Rothlisberger.

I dont think its gonna take 4 or 5 years to get there.

We arent that many pieces off, right now, if you cross off QB.

Even a rookie.

Problem is that QBs don't drop any more

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Extrapolate the number of wins over 16 games.

Quinn is 3-9 as a starter
Thigpen is 1-10

Are you trying to sayy Quinn has shown to do more to help his team win games?

1st win
Quinn 3-8 45 yards 0td/0int

2nd win
14-36 185 yards 0td/0int

3rd win
6-19 36 yards 0tds/0int

Thats a combined
23-63 (36% completions)
266 yards (

in 3 games COMBINED)
0 tds

Yeah, he is a real go getter in those wins of his.

jd1020 · 09-03-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Problem is that QBs don't drop any more

Beauty is that with the SRs due to come out for 2013 we shouldn't need one to drop to be able to draft a QB that could come in and make an impact.

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I think this team is set up for a good rookie to take over and flourish ala Ben Rothlisberger.

I dont think its gonna take 4 or 5 years to get there.

We arent that many pieces off, right now, if you cross off QB.

Even a rookie.

It's risky. It's a risk I would be willing to go with, but a lot of times rookies make a big mistake in the playoffs that cost their teams. You chalk it up to learning experience, and try again the next season.

The Steelers got Ben somewhere right around pick #10. Nine maybe. Pioli might have to deal to get that kind of QB.

Again, I am all in on that type of deal.

But I still think we might have a guy right here on our roster too. And it is Quinn. JMO.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Problem is that QBs don't drop any more

There will probably be 4 or 5 that go in the first round in the 2013 draft.

One will drop into the mid to late teens and will be within striking distance.

I dont want to hear a peep from anyone about trading up not being an option, either.

We traded up for a injury prone tight end in the 3rd and were reportedly trying to trade up for the other twin from Florida in the first round.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

It's risky. It's a risk I would be willing to go with, but a lot of times rookies make a big mistake in the playoffs that cost their teams. You chalk it up to learning experience, and try again the next season.

The Steelers got Ben somewhere right around pick #10. Nine maybe. Pioli might have to deal to get that kind of QB.

Again, I am all in on that type of deal.

But I still think we might have a guy right here on our roster too. And it is Quinn. JMO.

A bigger risk is thinking either of our 30 year old quarterbacks that have been shitty will turn things around and win us a superbowl.

jd1020 · 09-03-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

There will probably be 4 or 5 that go in the first round in the 2013 draft.

One will drop into the mid to late teens and will be within striking distance.

I dont want to hear a peep from anyone about trading up not being an option, either.

We traded up for a injury prone tight end in the 3rd and were reportedly trying to trade up for the other twin from Florida in the first round.

Hasn't Pioli attempted to trade up, or at least made mention of the possibility of trading up, in the 1st a couple times since coming to KC?

Just depends on how much he likes the prospect and how much it will cost to get it done.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:40 PM

Nobody thought we would draft a wide receiver with reported attitude issues in the first round

Nobody thought we would draft a safety in the top 5

Nobody thought we would draft a 5tech at 3rd overall

Nobody thought we would draft Poe at 11

I dont even want to try and act like the guy is a predictable drafter in the first round.

Mr. Laz · 09-03-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw.

bullshit ... Bowe just fell down

you've lost your dam mind about the subject

jspchief · 09-03-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Are you trying to sayy Quinn has shown to do more to help his team win games?

No. I'm trying to say Thigpen sucks.

Simplicity · 09-03-2012, 05:54 PM

So what week do we start the "WE WANT QUINN" chants?

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

bullshit ... Bowe just fell down

you've lost your dam mind about the subject

That's your opinion. I respect that.

EDIT: Just rewatched it. Ball was outside... waist high. Ball lead him to the ground reaching for it to pull it in.

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

A bigger risk is thinking either of our 30 year old quarterbacks that have been shitty will turn things around and win us a superbowl.

Quinn is 27.

09-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1644349	I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn. I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week. Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards. Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards. The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills. Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily. The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together. Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players. 3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down. 3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down. 3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured. Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD. That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them. I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.
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09-03-2012, 05:40 PM	#85
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1914088	Nobody thought we would draft a wide receiver with reported attitude issues in the first round Nobody thought we would draft a safety in the top 5 Nobody thought we would draft a 5tech at 3rd overall Nobody thought we would draft Poe at 11 I dont even want to try and act like the guy is a predictable drafter in the first round.
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09-03-2012, 05:54 PM	#88
Simplicity Iowa B1G West Champs Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Front Range of Colorado Casino cash: $9600151	So what week do we start the "WE WANT QUINN" chants?
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