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Old 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM  
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Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

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Old 09-06-2007, 08:06 PM   #436
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At that, you would get 33 mpg rather than 30. Not a good tradeoff IMO.
Wouldn't be for me in Chicago traffic, nope.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:07 PM   #437
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The reason I'm looking at a manual is for the speed factor. If I'm going to get a car with a smaller engine, I don't want one that'll take half an hour to pass somebody.
We've had this discussion on here before. Some autos use much less horsepower than others. I think it was Radar Chief who knows a lot about it. Probably HemiEd too. My buddy with the ultra hot '55 Chevy uses a Chevy Powerglide. 30 years ago you saw nothing but stick shift at the drag strip. Not anymore.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:10 PM   #438
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We've had this discussion on here before. Some autos use much less horsepower than others. I think it was Radar Chief who knows a lot about it. Probably HemiEd too. My buddy with the ultra hot '55 Chevy uses a Chevy Powerglide. 30 years ago you saw nothing but stick shift at the drag strip. Not anymore.
I'd be interested in that, too. I've never seen a car with an automatic transmission that had better mileage than its manual brethren.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:15 PM   #439
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Wouldn't be for me in Chicago traffic, nope.
That plus different people with different driving habits can make more than a 10% difference. Jackrabbit starts and failure to coast up to a red light in particular.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:28 PM   #440
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I'd be interested in that, too. I've never seen a car with an automatic transmission that had better mileage than its manual brethren.
Probably not. It takes a few horsepower to operate the torque converter, et al. Interestingly, before about 1970 there were no 1/2 ton pickups with an auto trans (except special order). Now most all of them are. Another advantage to a stick is pulling power. They will pull a trailer (without blowing up) much better than an auto. Also, if your battery is dead or your starter out, you can get a guy to help you push it to start it Not so with an auto.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:38 PM   #441
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What kind of milage do you get with your Impala? I owned a 2003 Impala that got 30 mpg on the highway. Traded it for a Dodge Dakota that got 19 mpg right before the prices skyrocketed

Many times I wished I had that Impala back. Roomy and good gas milage to boot. Anything that gets close to 30 mpg is ok to me.
It gets decent mileage on the highway. The problem is I never drive the damn thing on the highway, and driving around town, the mileage just flat out sucks. I get around 15 or 16 mpg in town. Granted, I generally accellerate quickly and drive fast, but that's awful.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:21 PM   #442
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I had a C-store in Chanute and the local Chevy dealer was a gasoline customer. The service manager would go through a protracted ritual filling up a customers car so he could road test it to check the mileage. And yes, he came back 30 minutes later and repeated the procedure to determine actual gas used to travel his predetermined distance. He was doing this to dispel the customer claim that the car didn't get the mileage stated on the sticker. He could always blow off the customer this way. Driving habits greatly affect gas mileage.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:44 AM   #443
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OPEC Agrees to Boost Crude Output

VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- OPEC agreed late Tuesday to boost its crude output by 500,000 barrels a day starting Nov. 1, in an effort to calm markets worried that supplies could grow tight by the end of the year.

Omar Farouk Ibrahim, spokesman for the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, said the increase would be based on the group's current production -- meaning the 12-nation cartel was adding actual oil to the market.

Ibrahim said OPEC agreed to "vigilantly monitor" fluctuations in the volatile global crude market.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:46 AM   #444
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070911/opec_meeting.html?.v=6

OPEC Agrees to Boost Crude Output

VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- OPEC agreed late Tuesday to boost its crude output by 500,000 barrels a day starting Nov. 1, in an effort to calm markets worried that supplies could grow tight by the end of the year.

Omar Farouk Ibrahim, spokesman for the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, said the increase would be based on the group's current production -- meaning the 12-nation cartel was adding actual oil to the market.

Ibrahim said OPEC agreed to "vigilantly monitor" fluctuations in the volatile global crude market.
and we will welcome the additional revenue the market demands.
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:02 AM   #445
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and we will welcome the additional revenue the market demands.
Pretty much.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:04 PM   #446
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It gets decent mileage on the highway. The problem is I never drive the damn thing on the highway, and driving around town, the mileage just flat out sucks. I get around 15 or 16 mpg in town. Granted, I generally accellerate quickly and drive fast, but that's awful.
Ask yourself this question: "How many miles am I getting per break job"? That will tell you the potential for improved gas milage.

It never ceases to amaze me, the number of cars that blow past me in a 30 mph zone, only to get hung up at the next red light that I creep up to and park right beside them.

You just can't be in a hurry when driveing, it won't make a difference anyway. It's like saving only pennies.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:18 PM   #447
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Ask yourself this question: "How many miles am I getting per break job"? That will tell you the potential for improved gas milage.

It never ceases to amaze me, the number of cars that blow past me in a 30 mph zone, only to get hung up at the next red light that I creep up to and park right beside them.

You just can't be in a hurry when driveing, it won't make a difference anyway. It's like saving only pennies.
It is simply an impossibility for me to drive like an old lady. Turning left out of my subdivision, I either go like a bat out of hell or wait half an hour. Same with pretty much everyplace else up here. I've got shit to do and places to go, and I want to get there as quickly as possible. People who putter around are the problem, not the answer to the problem.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:26 PM   #448
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I wonder why gas was $.50 per gallon cheaper right out side of NY City, (Newark) than it is here in the Chicago burbs? (last weekend)
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:29 PM   #449
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I wonder why gas was $.50 per gallon cheaper right out side of NY City, (Newark) than it is here in the Chicago burbs? (last weekend)
Apparently we're getting taxed to death. Seems much worse this year than in years past, though.
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Once price gouging, now normal
Gas now higher than price after 9/11, when stations were fined

Clinton Thomas
Agribusiness Reporter

Few Americans reacted quicker to the events of Sept. 11 than gas station owners.

Fuel prices in St. Joseph had hovered between $1.59 and $1.79 per gallon in the days leading up to the attack. As worried citizens scrambled to stockpile resources, prices at the pump rose to sky-high levels across the nation. The Midland Empire was not left out, as nine Northwest Missouri gas stations eventually paid fines for violating state price-gouging laws.

On the sixth anniversary of Sept. 11, those days of price gouging might not look so bad to local consumers.

In 2001, Wood's Mini Mart on Frederick Avenue was fined for hiking prices to $2.49 per gallon. Now under new management, Woody's Gas Express sold regular unleaded for $2.77 per gallon on Monday at the same location. The price of unleaded gasoline was as high as $2.83 a gallon at some stations in St. Joseph this week.

Companies no longer receive fines for such prices, but that does not mean consumers have forgiven the oil companies.

"I guarantee it's still a gouge, but it's a supply-and-demand thing, too," local resident Will Campbell said. "They're holding back supply and it's raising the prices."

The government justified the fines it handed out in 2001 by pointing out that domestic petroleum pipelines and refineries were never in any danger. The same holds true today, yet the fines have stopped.

Customers at local pumps tried to guess why that has happened.

"On 9/11 it was just a few stations gouging," Larry Osborn said while he filled his tank. "Now everyone is doing it. They can't fine them all
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