Could use some advice...please

Chief_in_Commander · 09-13-2012, 05:06 AM

First off, this is not a Fantasy Football question, it is a moral question for lack of a better term but it involves fantasy football. I'm going to try and keep it as short as possible so sorry for the wall'o'text if it gets lengthy.

I have been running some fantasy teams for some time, pretty standard usually with no weird rules or anything. Well, this year we all agreed to do a couple keeper leagues. Keepers working in the way that you can not keep your first 3 round picks the next year, can't keep the same guy for more than 3 years and you give up a pick 1 rd of where he was drafted to keep him the following year, that is rolling (i.e if you want to keep your 5th rd you would give up a 4th, then the following year to keep him again you give up a 3rd, so on and so forth. You wouldn't be able to keep that person again because he would then be a 3rd but you get the point)

Anyway, so this is a 12 team league. I know everyone in the league really well, except for 1 guy, who works with 3 of the other members in this league. I'm not that close with him but hung out on occasion. The others in the league he doesn't know that well either, he just knows these 3 he works with pretty much.

This person in particular scored a little over 100 pts this week and won his first game. Then (as commissioner) I get an accepted trade yesterday afternoon needing approval. It is from (Guy above) giving up Julio Jones in exchange he gets back....Michael Turner.... from his co-worker (My best friend from highschool/roomate for 6yrs) and thats it. Here are the two teams for more insight with order they were drafted:
First guys team
1. (9) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
2. (16) Julio Jones (Atl - WR)
3. (33) Jordy Nelson (GB - WR)
4. (40) Jay Cutler (Chi - QB)
5. (57) Ryan Williams (Ari - RB)
6. (64) Jermichael Finley (GB - TE)
7. (81) Isaac Redman (Pit - RB)
8. (88) Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
9. (105) Malcom Floyd (SD - WR)
10. (112) Robert Meachem (SD - WR)
11. (129) Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF)
12. (136) Ronnie Brown (SD - RB)
13. (153) Sebastian Janikowski (Oak - K)
14. (160) Jerome Simpson (Min - WR)
15. (177) Ryan Tannehill (Mia - QB)
16. (184) Austin Collie (Ind - WR)
17. (201) Michael Egnew (Mia - TE)

2nd guys team:
1. (4) Ray Rice (Bal - RB)
2. (21) Michael Turner (Atl - RB)
3. (28) Victor Cruz (NYG - WR)
4. (45) Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
5. (52) Vincent Jackson (TB - WR)
6. (69) Beanie Wells (Ari - RB)
7. (76) Aaron Hernandez (NE - TE)
8. (93) Matt Schaub (Hou - QB)
9. (100) Torrey Smith (Bal - WR)
10. (117) Lance Moore (NO - WR)
11. (124) Chicago (Chi - DEF)
12. (141) LeGarrette Blount (TB - RB)
13. (148) Laurent Robinson (Jac - WR)
14. (165) Tony Moeaki (KC - TE)
15. (172) David Akers (SF - K)
16. (189) LaMichael James (SF - RB)
17. (196) Rueben Randle (NYG - WR)

As a league we don't veto together I just approve or decline but I always contact everyone and get there opinions before I do anything unless its a pretty cut and dry situation. Needless to say, everyone I talked to was not happy about it so I contacted guy mentioned dumping Julio and he said "well I need a running back". I said "well to be fair to the league and for the sake of trying to win, why don't you put him on the trading block and get picks for next years draft or more than just Turner in return this year". He said to cancel the trade and he would so I thought situation was over.

Shortly after talking I get ANOTHER accepted trade from said guy giving up Jamaal Charles (his 1st rd) for Jon Stewart and Dwayne Bowe to other co-worker (my good friend as well).

Well I denied both trades but sent an email to league saying "These two players are available, so give him your offers and if nobody offers him better/equal we will vote". Afterward I tried calling this guy and talking to him but he won't answer or return my calls. He is denying all trades from people (which are better value than what he has) and sticking to wanting said players.

Everyone in the league doesn't think the trade is fair (obviously) but its virtually split down the middle on if they would actually veto it or not. I am going to piss off my good friends by denying it, but piss off a few other people (brothers) by allowing it.

Also add to the fact that this same guy in the same league last year (non-keeper) contacted these exact same two people before the playoffs and said "watch the waiver, i'm dumping" and just cut all his players. I didn't allow it to happen but the fact he would do that made everyone pretty upset. We talked about it before letting him back and he assured me it wouldn't be an issue.

The two friends of mine are arguing that if thats what he wants to do then he should be able to do it, its his team. But its clearly unfair value in players and hes not even asking for picks next year in the case he doesn't like his team (I don't know that, just assuming he is dumping players).

Again, sorry for wall of text but if you read it, what should I do without pissing everyone off?

Lex Luthor · 09-13-2012, 05:25 AM

The guy has already shown he's a douchebag. Do the right thing this year. Let everybody know that you're watching his trades closely, reject the bad ones, then kick him out of the league next year.

He will always be a pain in your ass. One guy can ruin a league for everyone and can make life hell for the commissioner. If you let him.

Quesadilla Joe · 09-13-2012, 05:38 AM

Kick him out of the league and release his players to the waiver wire.

|Zach| · 09-13-2012, 05:45 AM

Hey fantasy football sounds like a whole lot of fun.

Deberg_1990 · 09-13-2012, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Hey fantasy football sounds like a whole lot of fun.

I think we can all agree its more fun than fantasy Soccer

YourMother · 09-13-2012, 06:57 AM

Then your gonna have to put up with some other hopeless goobers for company. Either grow up and quit the league or have a tard fight for all your peers to watch

Your choice.

**Bugeater** · 09-13-2012, 05:51 AM

Fantasy football is stupid.

Planetman · 09-13-2012, 06:12 AM

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

Rasputin · 09-13-2012, 06:32 AM

Solution:

Anti~freeze

Cure all end all

Maybe you should try some yourself?

Solution: Solved

**007** · 09-13-2012, 06:32 AM

Hell, I have the league vote to boot him now and find another owner.

patteeu · 09-13-2012, 08:25 AM

I don't see the problem with the Julio Jones for Michael Turner trade. It's a trade of a 2nd rounder (pick 16) for a 2nd rounder (pick 21) so the draft has already established their value as about equal. If I were the guy who has Julio Jones, I'd be looking for RB help too.

Given that he says he thinks he needs RB help, I don't really understand the Jamaal Charles for Bowe/Steward trade, but I don't think it's a trade that ought to be vetoed either.

09-13-2012, 08:27 AM

This isn't a Fantasy Football thread....

Fantasy Blah Blah Blah for 6 paragraphs. Blah Blah.

The hell?

patteeu · 09-13-2012, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

This isn't a Fantasy Football thread....

Fantasy Blah Blah Blah for 6 paragraphs. Blah Blah.

The hell?

It's a thread about morals. It's about a fantasy football league commissioner who wants moral support for his efforts to treat the one member of his league that he doesn't know well unfairly.

YourMother · 09-13-2012, 08:43 AM

If your gonna be a gullable queer and be the "commisioner" of a gay ass fantasy football league with a bunch of other quiefs at least expect to be dealing with a bunch of sackless goobers.

And if you have a problem with my advice you can go suck an egg.

**Saul Good** · 09-13-2012, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourMother

If your gonna be a gullable queer and be the "commisioner" of a gay ass fantasy football league with a bunch of other quiefs at least expect to be dealing with a bunch of sackless goobers.

And if you have a problem with my advice you can go suck an egg.

You're embarrassing me, mom.

09-13-2012, 05:06 AM	Topic Starter
Chief_in_Commander Not Enlisted Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $10015275	Could use some advice...please First off, this is not a Fantasy Football question, it is a moral question for lack of a better term but it involves fantasy football. I'm going to try and keep it as short as possible so sorry for the wall'o'text if it gets lengthy. I have been running some fantasy teams for some time, pretty standard usually with no weird rules or anything. Well, this year we all agreed to do a couple keeper leagues. Keepers working in the way that you can not keep your first 3 round picks the next year, can't keep the same guy for more than 3 years and you give up a pick 1 rd of where he was drafted to keep him the following year, that is rolling (i.e if you want to keep your 5th rd you would give up a 4th, then the following year to keep him again you give up a 3rd, so on and so forth. You wouldn't be able to keep that person again because he would then be a 3rd but you get the point) Anyway, so this is a 12 team league. I know everyone in the league really well, except for 1 guy, who works with 3 of the other members in this league. I'm not that close with him but hung out on occasion. The others in the league he doesn't know that well either, he just knows these 3 he works with pretty much. This person in particular scored a little over 100 pts this week and won his first game. Then (as commissioner) I get an accepted trade yesterday afternoon needing approval. It is from (Guy above) giving up Julio Jones in exchange he gets back....Michael Turner.... from his co-worker (My best friend from highschool/roomate for 6yrs) and thats it. Here are the two teams for more insight with order they were drafted: First guys team 1. (9) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) 2. (16) Julio Jones (Atl - WR) 3. (33) Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) 4. (40) Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) 5. (57) Ryan Williams (Ari - RB) 6. (64) Jermichael Finley (GB - TE) 7. (81) Isaac Redman (Pit - RB) 8. (88) Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) 9. (105) Malcom Floyd (SD - WR) 10. (112) Robert Meachem (SD - WR) 11. (129) Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF) 12. (136) Ronnie Brown (SD - RB) 13. (153) Sebastian Janikowski (Oak - K) 14. (160) Jerome Simpson (Min - WR) 15. (177) Ryan Tannehill (Mia - QB) 16. (184) Austin Collie (Ind - WR) 17. (201) Michael Egnew (Mia - TE) 2nd guys team: 1. (4) Ray Rice (Bal - RB) 2. (21) Michael Turner (Atl - RB) 3. (28) Victor Cruz (NYG - WR) 4. (45) Eli Manning (NYG - QB) 5. (52) Vincent Jackson (TB - WR) 6. (69) Beanie Wells (Ari - RB) 7. (76) Aaron Hernandez (NE - TE) 8. (93) Matt Schaub (Hou - QB) 9. (100) Torrey Smith (Bal - WR) 10. (117) Lance Moore (NO - WR) 11. (124) Chicago (Chi - DEF) 12. (141) LeGarrette Blount (TB - RB) 13. (148) Laurent Robinson (Jac - WR) 14. (165) Tony Moeaki (KC - TE) 15. (172) David Akers (SF - K) 16. (189) LaMichael James (SF - RB) 17. (196) Rueben Randle (NYG - WR) As a league we don't veto together I just approve or decline but I always contact everyone and get there opinions before I do anything unless its a pretty cut and dry situation. Needless to say, everyone I talked to was not happy about it so I contacted guy mentioned dumping Julio and he said "well I need a running back". I said "well to be fair to the league and for the sake of trying to win, why don't you put him on the trading block and get picks for next years draft or more than just Turner in return this year". He said to cancel the trade and he would so I thought situation was over. Shortly after talking I get ANOTHER accepted trade from said guy giving up Jamaal Charles (his 1st rd) for Jon Stewart and Dwayne Bowe to other co-worker (my good friend as well). Well I denied both trades but sent an email to league saying "These two players are available, so give him your offers and if nobody offers him better/equal we will vote". Afterward I tried calling this guy and talking to him but he won't answer or return my calls. He is denying all trades from people (which are better value than what he has) and sticking to wanting said players. Everyone in the league doesn't think the trade is fair (obviously) but its virtually split down the middle on if they would actually veto it or not. I am going to piss off my good friends by denying it, but piss off a few other people (brothers) by allowing it. Also add to the fact that this same guy in the same league last year (non-keeper) contacted these exact same two people before the playoffs and said "watch the waiver, i'm dumping" and just cut all his players. I didn't allow it to happen but the fact he would do that made everyone pretty upset. We talked about it before letting him back and he assured me it wouldn't be an issue. The two friends of mine are arguing that if thats what he wants to do then he should be able to do it, its his team. But its clearly unfair value in players and hes not even asking for picks next year in the case he doesn't like his team (I don't know that, just assuming he is dumping players). Again, sorry for wall of text but if you read it, what should I do without pissing everyone off?
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09-13-2012, 05:25 AM	#2
Lex Luthor MVP Join Date: Mar 2010 Casino cash: $10022775	The guy has already shown he's a douchebag. Do the right thing this year. Let everybody know that you're watching his trades closely, reject the bad ones, then kick him out of the league next year. He will always be a pain in your ass. One guy can ruin a league for everyone and can make life hell for the commissioner. If you let him.
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09-13-2012, 05:38 AM	#3
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $4138675	Kick him out of the league and release his players to the waiver wire.
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09-13-2012, 05:45 AM	#4
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09-13-2012, 06:57 AM	#6
YourMother Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Casino cash: $10004900	If your Queer enough to play fantasy football.... Then your gonna have to put up with some other hopeless goobers for company. Either grow up and quit the league or have a tard fight for all your peers to watch Your choice.
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09-13-2012, 05:51 AM	#7
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09-13-2012, 08:25 AM	#11
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	I don't see the problem with the Julio Jones for Michael Turner trade. It's a trade of a 2nd rounder (pick 16) for a 2nd rounder (pick 21) so the draft has already established their value as about equal. If I were the guy who has Julio Jones, I'd be looking for RB help too. Given that he says he thinks he needs RB help, I don't really understand the Jamaal Charles for Bowe/Steward trade, but I don't think it's a trade that ought to be vetoed either. __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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09-13-2012, 08:27 AM	#12
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	This isn't a Fantasy Football thread.... Fantasy Blah Blah Blah for 6 paragraphs. Blah Blah. The hell?
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09-13-2012, 08:43 AM	#14
YourMother Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Casino cash: $10004900	If your gonna be a gullable queer and be the "commisioner" of a gay ass fantasy football league with a bunch of other quiefs at least expect to be dealing with a bunch of sackless goobers. And if you have a problem with my advice you can go suck an egg.
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