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Old 12-10-2011, 06:47 PM  
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Ryan Braun tests positive for PED

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...enhancing-drug

He's facing a 50 game suspension.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:05 PM   #196
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Really? What exactly was the argument you made in your appeal? I haven't heard that anywhere.
Give it a few days. He wanted to start talking right away, but his lawyers told him to shut up until after the appeal.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:07 PM   #197
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:10 PM   #198
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I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:11 PM   #199
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He's innocent in my book.
I have very little doubt that he took PEDs, but who really cares anyway? It's professional sports. Let them take what they want.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:13 PM   #200
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I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.
There's obviously something different that 2 out of 3 felt was significant, there was too much chatter and speculation that Braun could beat it to think that this was just arbitrary.

The decision is based on something, we just don't know what that something is yet. We already know that he failed far worse than any other known result from anyone who has ever taken that test in the world, maybe something was wrong with testing procedure or the chain of custody.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:19 PM   #201
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Believe what you want, I guess. Nothing I've read (to this point, anyway) provided a good explanation for that Braun test beyond a performance enhancer.

If the decision was based on something tangible or meaningful, I really doubt MLB would have went public in their disagreement of it. Doing so is an embarrassment for them.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:20 PM   #202
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I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:20 PM   #203
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Now, everyone who tests positive will be appealing.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:21 PM   #204
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If you have something to say just come right out and say it.
No need.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:21 PM   #205
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Now, everyone who tests positive will be appealing.
For the most part, they already were.
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No need.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:24 PM   #207
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I can't help but think that Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds (if he was ever caught) would never have gotten the benefit of the doubt from an arbitrator on appeal like this. The arbitrator's decision here was seemingly based on absolutely nothing.

Whatever, MLB's inconsistent brand of justice just saved my fantasy team in 2012.
Manny got busted 2 times and NEVER denied it. He was guilty as they come. Bonds pretty much admitted to it saying they used to rub that shit on him but he "thought" it was some kind of bengay type shit.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:25 PM   #208
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Manny got busted 2 times and NEVER denied it.
No, Manny appealed the first time. Retired immediately after the 2nd time and didn't bother appealing.

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Bonds pretty much admitted to it saying they used to rub that shit on him but he "thought" it was some kind of bengay type shit.
Oh, Bonds used a whole lot more than that.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:26 PM   #209
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Why not?
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:27 PM   #210
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No, Manny appealed the first time. Retired immediately after the 2nd time and didn't bother appealing.


Oh, Bonds used a whole lot more than that.
im sure he did, but my point was that he basically admitted it.
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