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Old 02-24-2013, 04:56 PM  
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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


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so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:38 AM   #2866
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So the point is most are picking players other than geno. case settled.
You need to do better than that. Things are changing and more and more are jumping on the Geno bandwagon. The fact is that more people are jumping off the Jokeel bandwagon too. He is receiving competition for the top tackle spot after the combine. Further more star has dropped off and so has Jones. Things change this time of year and they will continue to. Eventually youll see a lot of people thinking Geno is worth the top pick and i think i speak for a majority of CP when i say and rightfully so.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:38 AM   #2867
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obviously every pick has risk but relatively many say geno is a risky first pick. If he were a andrew luck or rg3 then there would be no argument. BUT HE"S NOT. GET OVER IT. I WISH HE WERE AN ALLSTAR TOO. HE COULD BE. BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW. He's just not worth a first pick from what most scouts say. You think glenn dorsey is an idiot? All scouts that say geno is not a first pick is an idiot right? Just admit it, yall just want a franchise qb so badly that you really want geno to be it. I'm not saying there's no chance that he wont be, he's a good player. JUST NOT WORTH THE FREAKING FIRST PICK.
What you seem to fail to grasp is that there is NOT a SINGLE player that would be worth the first pick in a normal NFL draft in this draft class.

EVERYBODY has risk. Let me help you out with some of that:

Luke Joeckel: Not the consensus top LT in the draft. Finesse player who is average at best in the run game at LOS (good on second-level). Struggled at times with guys who have NFL speed and power.

Eric Fisher: LT from directional school has the frame and athletic ability, and is actually a nasty run blocker (better than Joeckel). But competition level is a question, as is top-end upside.

Jarvis Jones: Has spinal stenosis and might never get cleared medically.

DeMontre Moore: Not an elite athlete. Tumbling down draft boards.

Bjoern Werner: Not an elite athlete, but a good try-hard guy. Raw. Production came in spurts. Not guaranteed to be a first-division RE.

Shariff Floyd: He's probably the best DL at this point, but his production was up and down in college and he's not scheme diverse (really needs to play in a 4-3 scheme where he can focus on penetration and pushing the pocket).

Sheldon Richardson: Same issues as Floyd - not someone you can play at end in a 3-4 and not big enough to be a NT - but with maturity and work ethic questions, to boot.

Chance Warmack: He's a fucking guard (who played on an elite college unit with tons of talent around him). Talk about a reach!

There is not an elite Non-QB in this draft. JaDaveon Clowney isn't sitting out there.

No, Geno Smith is not as flawless as Robert Griffin III or Andrew Luck (though, really, the only thing separating RG3 and Geno Smith is the freakish athletic ability of RG3, while Geno is just elite for QB). But he sure as hell stacks up just fine next to Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Sam Bradford, or Cam Newton, the other recent "top QBs" not named Luck or Griffin.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:38 AM   #2868
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Jags aren't in this and the Cards are not getting him since he's in the division. Jason LaCanfora's report is pretty much sealing the deal.

Alex Smith is wearing red and gold next fall.

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:40 AM   #2869
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Wait a second, the caller on 810 right now said Smith was GREAT in that Giants game.

By the way, the caller is Michael Garozzo and he's PRAYING the Chiefs get Alex Smith.

"Alex Smith is mobile, Geno Smith isn't. Alex Smith has already had his growing pains, we don't want growing pains. We'd be a legitimate contender with Alex Smith."

The sheer idiocy of these opinions makes me want to drive off a cliff while drinking anti-freeze into an aids infested lake.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:40 AM   #2870
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Actually, no they aren't.

Hail Redskins has a mock draft database. About 50% of the mock updated since JUNE have Geno as the first pick.

Just shut the **** up and leave.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:40 AM   #2871
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There isn't a single player in this draft that is worth the first pick.
ratchet strikes me as the type of dude who bargains someone down at a garage sale. Can't feel good about something unless he knows he got a deal.

He's so focused on value for the pick he's missing the bigger picture of it being about impact & wins.

A value LT pick isn't going to do squat making impact or adding wins. So what are we talking about then?

Joe Flacco, Big Ben, Aaron Rogers. All these guys were not "worth the 1st pick". So what does that tell you.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:42 AM   #2872
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Jags aren't in this and the Cards are not getting him since he's in the division. Jason LaCanfora's report is pretty much sealing the deal.

Alex Smith is wearing red and gold next fall.

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I think there's some validity to the idea that Alex Smith is being brought in to groom Geno for half a season or so.

All is not lost until draft day.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:42 AM   #2873
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:43 AM   #2874
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I think there's some validity to the idea that Alex Smith is being brought in to groom Geno for half a season or so.

All is not lost until draft day.
Yep. We have a heap of cap space and zero quarterbacks worth keeping on this roster.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:43 AM   #2875
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The sheer idiocy of these opinions makes me want to drive off a cliff while drinking anti-freeze into an aids infested lake.
Come on. Everybody loves Chicken Spiedini.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:44 AM   #2876
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Jags aren't in this and the Cards are not getting him since he's in the division. Jason LaCanfora's report is pretty much sealing the deal.

Alex Smith is wearing red and gold next fall.

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A QB picked up for a 4th rounder is not worth
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #2877
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:46 AM   #2878
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A QB picked up for a 4th rounder is not worth
If they bring him in and sign him to a 5-year extension and don't draft a QB, then you're wrong.

He absolutely is worth a .

Alex Smith is largely irrelevant if they draft Geno or Barkley 1.1.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #2879
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Pay attention, dipshit.

I said he will not put his team on his shoulders agianst opponents that have the same kind of support, I.e., a quality defense.

He made some plays against a very flawed, subpar Saints defense.

Against a real defense, the Giants, he sucked more balls than you have for your entire existence as a CP poster.

Kyle Williams is the goat, but only because Alex Smith could notmake a single play against a quality opponent.
sucked balls? bullshit amigo. the niners played a good game and lost in overtime. Alex Smith threw 2 TD's with no INT's and they only attempted 26 passes the entire game.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #2880
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I think there's some validity to the idea that Alex Smith is being brought in to groom Geno for half a season or so.

All is not lost until draft day.
True but how many times have we seen a #1 overall pick sit?

Unless they're planning on trading back to the mid 1st and think they can still get Geno. It just doesn't seem very realistic.
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