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Old 02-24-2013, 04:56 PM  
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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


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so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #2881
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Per Al Wallace on NFLN: The#Chiefs *do really like Geno Smith. They like his arm, his speed, the way he throws, and he had a great int
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:48 AM   #2882
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True but how many times have we seen a #1 overall pick sit?

Unless they're planning on trading back to the mid 1st and think they can still get Geno. It just doesn't seem very realistic.
It doesn't happen often but that doesn't mean it can't happen.

I'm not talking about him sitting for 2 seasons, I'm talking him sitting for 6-8 games.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:49 AM   #2883
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True but how many times have we seen a #1 overall pick sit?

Unless they're planning on trading back to the mid 1st and think they can still get Geno. It just doesn't seem very realistic.
Geno is not the type to make noise if he doesn't immediately start. and at the end of the day you can always trade/cut Alex...
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:49 AM   #2884
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I think there's some validity to the idea that Alex Smith is being brought in to groom Geno for half a season or so.

All is not lost until draft day.
It will be gone if we trade for Alex Smith on March 12th. It makes no sense to trade for a $7.5 million dollar QB and then draft one a month later 1st overall and have him take over so in little time.

If we trade for Alex Smith, he's the guy for the next few years.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:49 AM   #2885
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:50 AM   #2886
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:50 AM   #2887
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sucked balls? bullshit amigo. the niners played a good game and lost in overtime. Alex Smith threw 2 TD's with no INT's and they only attempted 26 passes the entire game.


He completed 12 of those 26 passes and was ONE FOR THIRTEEN on 3rd down.

Just stop talking. The less you post, the easier it is for people believe you actually know what you're talking about.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:50 AM   #2888
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I just don't want to overstate how bad Alex Smith is just to validate my position in this argument.
I tried doing this the other day and it's pointless.

People will drop Smith's stats next to Cassel's and say "look! see!"

It's stupid.

Alex Smith is a average/to above average NFL QB. He's exactly what you said. An efficient game manager.

I said his ceiling was Trent Green.

Which is 'meh.' I liked Green a lot. One of my favorite Chiefs...

but we've been down that road. Time to take a franchise QB at #1 and see what happens. If they want to give the 49ers a 4th for Alex Smith and take Geno at 1.1 then I'm more than ok with that.

But Smith and Joeckel? We better go 12-4, win at least 1 playoff game, and see Alex Smith have a career year and not just a stat wise career year.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:51 AM   #2889
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If they bring him in and sign him to a 5-year extension and don't draft a QB, then you're wrong.

He absolutely is worth a .

Alex Smith is largely irrelevant if they draft Geno or Barkley 1.1.
I think it will be worse for Geno fans. I think they trade for Foles and give him plenty of rope.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:51 AM   #2890
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It will be gone if we trade for Alex Smith on March 12th. It makes no sense to trade for a $7.5 million dollar QB and then draft one a month later 1st overall and have him take over so in little time.

If we trade for Alex Smith, he's the guy for the next few years.
Thats pretty short sighted.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:52 AM   #2891
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I think there's some validity to the idea that Alex Smith is being brought in to groom Geno for half a season or so.

All is not lost until draft day.
Exactly.

I'm fine with Alex Smith in red and gold.... as long as Geno Smith is also.

We have to have a #2. And Alex Smith is a lot more interesting to me in that capacity than anyone else currently on roster.
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He completed 12 of those 26 passes and was ONE FOR THIRTEEN on 3rd down.

Just stop talking. The less you post, the easier it is for people believe you actually know what you're talking about.
I agree with this. Alex Smith played horribly, especially down the stretch and in OT, against the Giants. I knew that game would come down to who made the first mistake because Alex couldn't move the chains or make the big throw and Eli was getting crushed/hit on every single drop back.

but you (and others) are being ridiculous

Alex Smith can very easily be what Trent Green was here in KC. That's his ceiling.

That's a ceiling I don't want. I'd rather have a guy with an Aaron Rodgers ceiling (Geno).

But I don't have to scream MATT CASSEL MATT CASSEL MATT CASSEL any time something doesn't go my way.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:53 AM   #2894
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It will be gone if we trade for Alex Smith on March 12th. It makes no sense to trade for a $7.5 million dollar QB and then draft one a month later 1st overall and have him take over so in little time.

If we trade for Alex Smith, he's the guy for the next few years.
I see it that way too, except that there seems to be considerable smoke behind the Chiefs taking Geno Smith too.

How can they BOTH be true?
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Warner was worse than Cassel at turning the ball over, IIRC.
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