Chiefs Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs - Page 368

Deberg_1990 · 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM

Well, it looks like the deal is done.

https://twitter.com/intent/user?scre...w_p=tweetembed

Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith

Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.

**SAUTO** · 08-26-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Chum

I know you are being sarcastic but, it really is. He's dead meat and the NY media will eat him alive. He was absolutely the WORST QB they could have drafted. His personality is a terrible fit for NY. He's not physically or mentally tough and the media will never give him a chance. I don't think he would have made it in the NFL anywhere but, New York was the worst place for him to go. Even if they were a great team he would fold under the pressure quick imo.

Sup black bob
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DJ's left nut · 08-26-2013, 05:18 PM

And while I think this has been mentioned already, I really do think the organization owes guys like Bowe, Charles, DJ, Flowers and Hali a run while they're still in/near their primes.

Giving up 2 more years to develop someone like Geno while using him as our primary starter is really telling Hali and DJ that we give zero ****s about winning with them and it tells Flowers that we look forward to trying to win a championship with him as our #2 corner in 2016 before replacing him in 2017.

I like the idea of bringing in the best possible guy to win for the next 2 years (and that's unquestionably Alex, IMO) while also trying to get a high-end developmental QB in Bray.

I would've loved to move back into the 2nd to grab Geno, but we didn't. Getting Smith and going forward with Bray as the 'new hotness' is my 2nd favorite option.

At some point I have to excuse these guys for not doing exactly what I'd have done and acknowledge that I do like what they did do. Demanding that a regime do things exactly as you'd have done them is just unfair.

The path they chose capitalizes on the primes of some excellent players while also giving us some nice options for the future. I can live with that.

Pablo · 08-26-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I just don't think the Davis pick was good value at all. Wasn't he drafted on something he did back in 2010? He's got size, he's got speed. But after that one season he was always on the sideline with an injury or fumbling, and he's already flashed his ability to put the ball on the ground.

Do you believe he'll be more than Moeaki?

Eh, Davis is the sort of physical specimen that is worth taking a shot on. If you were building a RB in a lab, you'd probably come out with something that looks like the guy.

Yeah, he's a fumbling machine in the past. And he's done it already, which is a huge concern. But I can't believe he's nearly as risky as Moeaki in terms of being oft injured. And even if he is oft injured, he still possesses physical attributes that are very desirable for his position. Moekai doesn't.

**SAUTO** · 08-26-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Chum

When it comes to football, almost everything I say here is true and these dumb****s can't handle it. That's why I was banned in the first place. I told them this exact same shit last November.

Also, I never broke a rule until I was banned.

Be careful what you say Maverick because they will mob up and get you banned for talking reality. I'm not kidding. It's probably only a matter of time. However, it never really stops anyone. It just fuels the fire.

who was quicker than Charles?

Some piece of shit tackles better than dj.

You sucked the babysitters dick.

You were going to sue the forum.

Damn its been a while but there are more.

All true though black bob .
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jd1020 · 08-26-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good grief. This forum had been overrun by idiots.

Because there was even 1 person calling the Davis pick a good one, right?

If you pick Barkley there, you likely still have the opportunity to draft Davis in the 6th instead of the FB who just got cut.

DJ's left nut · 08-26-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I just don't think the Davis pick was good value at all. Wasn't he drafted on something he did back in 2010? He's got size, he's got speed. But after that one season he was always on the sideline with an injury or fumbling, and he's already flashed his ability to put the ball on the ground.

Do you believe he'll be more than Moeaki?

Yes.

Besides, the 4th round is where you take your HR swings. Value doesn't amaze me there, upside does.

Knile Davis has huge upside. You don't kick the shit out of the SEC as a Soph by accident - this kid can play football.

DJ's left nut · 08-26-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Because there was even 1 person calling the Davis pick a good one, right?

I hated the pick.

But I've observed the guy and am willing to change an opinion based on observation.

From what I've seen, we got a nice lottery ticket in the 4th (because a 3rd round comp is a 4th to me).

Discuss Thrower · 08-26-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And while I think this has been mentioned already, I really do think the organization owes guys like Bowe, Charles, DJ, Flowers and Hali a run while they're still in/near their primes.

Giving up 2 more years to develop someone like Geno while using him as our primary starter is really telling Hali and DJ that we give zero ****s about winning with them and it tells Flowers that we look forward to trying to win a championship with him as our #2 corner in 2016 before replacing him in 2017.

I like the idea of bringing in the best possible guy to win for the next 2 years (and that's unquestionably Alex, IMO) while also trying to get a high-end developmental QB in Bray.

I would've loved to move back into the 2nd to grab Geno, but we didn't. Getting Smith and going forward with Bray as the 'new hotness' is my 2nd favorite option.

At some point I have to excuse these guys for not doing exactly what I'd have done and acknowledge that I do like what they did do. Demanding that a regime do things exactly as you'd have done them is just unfair.

The path they chose capitalizes on the primes of some excellent players while also giving up some nice options for the future. I can live with that.

Yet another rebuild would be pointless without dealing Bowe, DJ, Tamba, Jamaal and even Flowers. Scooter's contract extensions and deals made those impossible so a reload with Alex seems to be the preferable option.

Pablo · 08-26-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

who was quicker than Charles?

Some piece of shit tackles better than dj.

You sucked the babysitters dick.

You were going to sue the forum.

Damn its been a while but there are more.

All true though black bob .
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LOL. Where does this insult come from?

O.city · 08-26-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And while I think this has been mentioned already, I really do think the organization owes guys like Bowe, Charles, DJ, Flowers and Hali a run while they're still in/near their primes.

Giving up 2 more years to develop someone like Geno while using him as our primary starter is really telling Hali and DJ that we give zero ****s about winning with them and it tells Flowers that we look forward to trying to win a championship with him as our #2 corner in 2016 before replacing him in 2017.

I like the idea of bringing in the best possible guy to win for the next 2 years (and that's unquestionably Alex, IMO) while also trying to get a high-end developmental QB in Bray.

I would've loved to move back into the 2nd to grab Geno, but we didn't. Getting Smith and going forward with Bray as the 'new hotness' is my 2nd favorite option.

At some point I have to excuse these guys for not doing exactly what I'd have done and acknowledge that I do like what they did do. Demanding that a regime do things exactly as you'd have done them is just unfair.

The path they chose capitalizes on the primes of some excellent players while also giving up some nice options for the future. I can live with that.

I hold your opinion pretty high (which according to laz is stupid

) but is there really that much different developmentally between geno and bray?

**SAUTO** · 08-26-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

LOL. Where does this insult come from?

His fingers typing it.

Its a true story.
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Pablo · 08-26-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

His fingers typing it.

Its a true story.
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I'm assuming this has to be a HOC thread or something?

KCUnited · 08-26-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

LOL. Where does this insult come from?

He openly admitted to it in an attempt to explain why he is the way he is.

DJ's left nut · 08-26-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I hold your opinion pretty high (which according to laz is stupid

) but is there really that much different developmentally between geno and bray?

I've said it a couple of times in different threads, but I contend at this point that the difference in value between those guys is almost exclusively their respective floors.

Bray's is obviously significantly lower than Geno's. But at a point I have to ask the guys that say "Elite or Bust!" why they give a shit about floors? Geno's much more likely to settle in as a decent QB than Bray. In fact, he sure looks like a guy that could turn into the next Alex Smith if he learns to read a whiteboard.

But if we can skip the development curve and get a QB with similar or better upside in Bray - why not do that?

We got Geno's much more desirable 'floor' covered by acquiring Alex and we got similar long-term upside, IMO by acquiring Bray. So from where I sit, this was a best of both worlds scenario.

**SAUTO** · 08-26-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

I'm assuming this has to be a HOC thread or something?

?

He has had about ten or more user names.

Reminds me of someone else around here...
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02-27-2013, 10:59 AM
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3049099	And while I think this has been mentioned already, I really do think the organization owes guys like Bowe, Charles, DJ, Flowers and Hali a run while they're still in/near their primes. Giving up 2 more years to develop someone like Geno while using him as our primary starter is really telling Hali and DJ that we give zero ***s about winning with them and it tells Flowers that we look forward to trying to win a championship with him as our #2 corner in 2016 before replacing him in 2017. I like the idea of bringing in the best possible guy to win for the next 2 years (and that's unquestionably Alex, IMO) while also trying to get a high-end developmental QB in Bray. I would've loved* to move back into the 2nd to grab Geno, but we didn't. Getting Smith and going forward with Bray as the 'new hotness' is my 2nd favorite option. At some point I have to excuse these guys for not doing exactly what I'd have done and acknowledge that I do like what they did do. Demanding that a regime do things exactly as you'd have done them is just unfair. The path they chose capitalizes on the primes of some excellent players while also giving us some nice options for the future. I can live with that. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags." Last edited by DJ's left nut; 08-26-2013 at 05:23 PM..
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