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Old 04-27-2018, 02:45 PM  
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Is our O-line ready for AFC West pass rushers?

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What does the first round of the NFL Draft mean for Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs?

They better be ready for the pass rushers this year. We knew the AFC West pass rushers were already strong and they got even stronger with the addition of Bradley Chubb to the Denver Broncos with the No. 5 overall pick.

The Chiefs loaded up with Mahomes and the Broncos responded. The Broncos have Von Miller and Chubb while the Chargers have Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa. The Raiders have their young pass rusher in Khalil Mack. That makes the Chiefs and Justin Houston (and Dee Ford) look a little behind in comparison.

The offensive tackle position becomes a lot more important in Kansas City. Those tackles will be facing elite pass rushers in a bunch of games going forward. Most teams have just one elite pass rusher but we are on the verge of two AFC West teams having two elite pass rushers if Chubb pans out.

Eric Fisher and Mitch Schwartz are entrenched at the tackle position. I wondered if the Chiefs could draft an offensive tackle here and let him sit for a year before swapping Fisher out for him.

I feel like that’s less likely now because with these pass rushers I want my next tackle to come from free agency—someone who is already a star tackle and not someone that needs to be developed while playing Von Miller (and getting Mahomes killed).

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Old 04-27-2018, 02:47 PM   #2
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:51 PM   #3
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Mahomes mobility combined with keeping his eye down field is how you counter it. We already did.
I would worry more about teams loading up their secondary.
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:53 PM   #4
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:55 PM   #5
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Mahomes mobility combined with keeping his eye down field is how you counter it. We already did.
I would worry more about teams loading up their secondary.
That, and quick passes, screens, and a good run game. We have all three.
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:56 PM   #6
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:57 PM   #7
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I was thinking about this last night.

With the depth at CB, it might be smart to grab James Daniels or Will Hernandez and then move up from one of the thirds (or both) to get a corner and safety or 2 corners.
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Old 04-27-2018, 03:04 PM   #8
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Who knows.

But Mahomes is ready:

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Mahomes mobility combined with keeping his eye down field is how you counter it. We already did.
I would worry more about teams loading up their secondary.
I see your logic. But Mahomes isn't going to help the team if he's on the bench with an injury. PFF ranked the line as #16 overall last season. Losing Fulton isn't going to help. What scares me most is Fisher's inconsistent pass protection on the blind side of Mahomes. Couple that with questions at LG and Andy might need to keep a TE over there to help.
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Alex didn't have near the weapons Mahomes will have and he had a record year with that line.
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Isn’t PHII playing all five O-Line positions himself? The talk around here suggests so.
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I see your logic. But Mahomes isn't going to help the team if he's on the bench with an injury. PFF ranked the line as #16 overall last season. Losing Fulton isn't going to help. What scares me most is Fisher's inconsistent pass protection on the blind side of Mahomes. Couple that with questions at LG and Andy might need to keep a TE over there to help.
Pretty sure I read that the Chiefs gave their tackles the least help (e.g. via a tight end) last year and they performed okay, the reality is most of the pass rushers from the article played against the Chiefs last year and they took 5 of 6 in the division.
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I see your logic. But Mahomes isn't going to help the team if he's on the bench with an injury. PFF ranked the line as #16 overall last season. Losing Fulton isn't going to help. What scares me most is Fisher's inconsistent pass protection on the blind side of Mahomes. Couple that with questions at LG and Andy might need to keep a TE over there to help.
To me that should be good enough. You cant be stacked everywhere.
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Alex didn't have near the weapons Mahomes will have and he had a record year with that line.
Maybe. Time will tell. We'll see what Watkins brings to the table and if the skill position players can stay healthy. In the best scenario, you still have a first year starter at QB. Let's hope his elusiveness in the pocket exceeds his experience. Because right now, the o-line is worse than last year. And Mahomes does not have the wheels of Smith. Unfortunately, our divisional rivals are also getting better in the pass rush. Hope they find a viable solution at LG. Fisher is counting about $14M against the cap this year, with a dead cap # at about $22M. So I doubt he's going anywhere. Fingers crossed.
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Seems like the injury bug loves to bite the Chiefs year after year

Let's hope we can avoid losing players for extended amounts of time and all stay healthy
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