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Old 09-11-2007, 01:22 PM  
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Keitzman going off on Carl

On sports radio 810 Kevein Keitzman is going off on Carl. I love it. He's actually saying some good things. Great rant.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:36 PM   #16
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He said Carl is like a Supreme Court justice-he has a lifetime appointment who can throw out mediocre teams every year without having to fear for his job as long as the money rolls in, ownership could care less.
So he stole Kornheiser's routine from preseason? That's sad.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:36 PM   #17
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"the next great general manager is out there and available right now ............ now maybe Clark Hunt is too busy in Fiji or with soccer to find him, i don't know"


That IS funny.

And probably true.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:40 PM   #18
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So he stole Kornheiser's routine from preseason? That's sad.
As long as it brings heat on Carl I could careless if it's somebody else's schtick. Carl needs to go.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:41 PM   #19
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Carl is unaccountable to anyone.

Carl has not given us a superbowl winner

Carl has not given us a superbowl

Carl has not even given us a play off win since 1993

Carl has not even given us a decent complete team
on offense-defense and special teams at the SAME TIME.


Hey Carl, and GTFO
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:43 PM   #20
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So he stole Kornheiser's routine from preseason? That's sad.
he gave credit to kornehieser for it
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:43 PM   #21
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Yeah..he said every other team in the league has improved attendance records and that's what Carl supporters hang there hats on. He is the only GM with a 19 year tenure who hasn't won a superbowl. Hired his good buddy as VP of Personnel, I forget his name, but as the head guy of the saints he went 3-13, 6-10, 6-10, 3-13. Keitzman said Herm should quit in the middle of the season because Carl is making him look like a guy that can't coach when all he did last year was take a team just as bad as this one into the playoffs through the back door. People have been going off for years about Carl, yet a smart guy like Clark can't figure it out? Oh one more thing, Glass (royals owner) was told Baird was the man to get so he got him and didn't work out so he got rid of him and then picked up Dayton Moore down the road. Atleast show the fans you WANT to progress and make some changes. HAHA, do they deliver the USA Today to the Fiji islands so Hunt can see it?
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:45 PM   #22
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Yeah..he said every other team in the league has improved attendance records and that's what Carl supporters hang there hats on. He is the only GM with a 19 year tenure who hasn't won a superbowl. Hired his good buddy as VP of Personnel, I forget his name, but as the head guy of the saints he went 3-13, 6-10, 6-10, 3-13. Keitzman said Herm should quit in the middle of the season because Carl is making him look like a guy that can't coach when all he did last year was take a team just as bad as this one into the playoffs through the back door. People have been going off for years about Carl, yet a smart guy like Clark can't figure it out? Oh one more thing, Glass (royals owner) was told Baird was the man to get so he got him and didn't work out so he got rid of him and then picked up Dayton Moore down the road. Atleast show the fans you WANT to progress and make some changes. HAHA, do they deliver the USA Today to the Fiji islands so Hunt can see it?
Pretty good run-down of what he's stating.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:46 PM   #23
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Carl and Herm would get a lot more slack if they would put Croyle in. Either rebuild or don't- you can't do both.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:51 PM   #24
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Carl and Herm would get a lot more slack if they would put Croyle in. Either rebuild or don't- you can't do both.
No they wouldn't. There are plenty of other topics they can parrot on about instead. Some would find a way to criticize if we went 19-0.

Some people here want to rebuild, but don't want to lose any games. They want a QBOTF, but not one who will throw an INT. They want balance, but we should throw the ball more.

They demand change, but they don't want change.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:53 PM   #25
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I'm not a Carl fan. He did some good things, but his time has run its course in KC.

This said, the logic behind Kietzman's rant was asinine. For example: He compared Carl (and by extension the Hunt family) to David Glass and claimed that what Carl's done is far worse than Glass. Kietz's logic was that Glass hired Baird, then considered the next great thing. When this failed, Glass went with Moore, the next, next great thing, so at least he's trying.

No mention of what happened during Baird's regime. Two World Series champs not retained (one the MVP). Three-hole hitter on one of the best teams in MLB, gone. For lots of years = Glass wasn't trying to win but was trying to restructure the economics of the game. Carl = trying to win but not competent (or perhaps gutsy) enough to pull it off.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:55 PM   #27
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No they wouldn't. There are plenty of other topics they can parrot on about instead. Some would find a way to criticize if we went 19-0.

Some people here want to rebuild, but don't want to lose any games. They want a QBOTF, but not one who will through an INT. They want balance, but we should throw the ball more.

They demand change, but they don't want change.
Ding, Ding Ding.

And it people like those who keep 810 in business.

KK is doing nothing more than stirring the pot today and he knows it. He could give a fuck less about the fans, unless they call his show and regurgitate his schtick right back at him.

I'm not saying some of the points brought up aren't valid, but let's not take Mr Kietzman for more than he is.

He could give a two shits about the team or it's fans. He wants ratings, pure and simple........
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:55 PM   #28
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No they wouldn't. There are plenty of other topics they can parrot on about instead. Some would find a way to criticize if we went 19-0.

Some people here want to rebuild, but don't want to lose any games. They want a QBOTF, but not one who will through an INT. They want balance, but we should throw the ball more.

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Old 09-11-2007, 01:55 PM   #29
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He said he did a half hour of research and found some young personnel men in the NFL who could replace Carl. Named guys like Chris Polian (son of Bill Polian), Randy Mueller (second in command in New Orleans), and the second in command in New England who's name I can't remember.
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Ding, Ding Ding.

And it people like those who keep 810 in business.

KK is doing nothing more than stirring the pot today and he knows it. He could give a fuck less about the fans, unless they call his show and regurgitate his schtick right back at him.

I'm not saying some of the points brought up aren't valid, but let's not take Mr Kietzman for more than he is.

He could give a two shits about the team or it's fans. He wants ratings, pure and simple........
Who cares WHO said it. The fact of the matter is that most of WHAT he said was true. That is a fallacy to discredit an argument simply because of who is making the argument.
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