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Old 04-20-2018, 09:22 PM  
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Jeff Sessions is a superstar

Sessions continues to be the highest performing member of the Trump administration, even in the face of significant buffeting from above.

Not only has he initiated key reforms of the DOJ from the ravages and politicization of the Obama years, he also had the courage to do the right thing and recuse himself from the Russia probe, stood up to his boss when he tried to bully him into leaving, and now is doing what he can to try to protect its independence.

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WASHINGTON – Attorney General Jeff Sessions recently told the White House he might have to leave his job if President Donald Trump fired his deputy, Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the exchange.

Sessions made his position known in a phone call to White House counsel Donald McGahn last weekend, as Trump’s fury at Rosenstein peaked after the deputy attorney general approved the FBI’s raid April 9 on the president’s personal attorney Michael Cohen.

Sessions’s message to the White House, which has not previously been reported, underscores the political firestorm that Trump would invite should he attempt to remove the deputy attorney general. While Trump also has railed against Sessions at times, the protest resignation of an attorney general – which would be likely to incite other departures within the administration – would create a moment of profound crisis for the White House.

In the phone call with McGahn, Sessions wanted details of a meeting Trump and Rosenstein held at the White House on April 12, according to a person with knowledge of the call. Sessions expressed relief to learn that their meeting was largely cordial. Sessions said he would have had to consider leaving as the attorney general had Trump ousted Rosenstein, this person said.

Another person familiar with the exchange said Sessions did not intend to threaten the White House but rather wanted to convey the untenable position that Rosenstein’s firing would put him in.

A Justice Department spokesperson declined to comment.

Rosenstein’s status remains uncertain, but the pressure he is facing seemed to subside after last week.

Last summer, when it appeared Trump was going to fire Sessions or pressure him to resign, Republican lawmakers and conservative advocacy groups rallied to Sessions’s side and warned the president not to move against him.

Trump had told senior officials last week that he was considering firing Rosenstein, who was confirmed by the Senate with overwhelming bipartisan support last year. Since then, alumni of the Justice Department have rallied to Rosenstein’s defense.

As of Friday afternoon, more than 800 former Justice Department employees had signed an open letter calling on Congress to “swiftly and forcefully respond to protect the founding principles of our Republic and the rule of law” if Trump were to fire the deputy attorney general, special counsel Robert Mueller or other senior Justice Department officials. The group MoveOn.org has sought to organize nationwide protests if such an event were to occur.

Rosenstein, on behalf of the Justice Department, is set to argue a sentencing case, Chavez-Meza v. United States, before the Supreme Court on Monday. Appearing before the high court has long been a professional goal, people close to Rosenstein say.

A senior administration official said Sessions does not like the way Rosenstein has been treated by the president and had expressed such concerns for months. He has regularly sought guidance from the White House about Rosenstein’s standing with the president and asked about his interactions with Trump, this official said.

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Old 04-21-2018, 06:12 PM   #76
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I thought that about PB, but he apparently wasn't. He did have the integrity to admit that Trump had failed him and withdraw his support, though.

The omnibus separated the sheep from the goats, I think. The Trumpers for whom it was about issues are off the train now. What we have left are the despotists who are still pretending everything is great and it's all someone else's fault.
I've railed against Trump for signing the omnibus too. This has nothing to do with any of that, this has to do with Sessions not going on the attack against all people from the Obama administration. And I mean ruthlessly! From Barry to Hillary to Bill to Lynch to Comey to Mueller, to Holder, to to Learner, to *.*, he needs to have all of them under investigation. Keep up dude, this has nothing to do with Trump, it has everything to do with not digging into every liberal in D.C.!
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:13 PM   #77
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Neat. I never did. He was just an easily-sold fool. I hope he comes back, though.



I think the people who are left are the ones Trump mentioned. And that, too, is as delicious.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:14 PM   #78
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I thought that about PB, but he apparently wasn't. He did have the integrity to admit that Trump had failed him and withdraw his support, though.

The omnibus separated the sheep from the goats, I think. The Trumpers for whom it was about issues are off the train now. What we have left are the despotists who are still pretending everything is great and it's all someone else's fault.
You've really become a pea brained prick with your holier than thou horseshit
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:19 PM   #79
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Says the international half-breed...
Yes, I do. You're the poster boy for what Trump mentioned. Must make you feel good, eh?
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:23 PM   #81
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You've really become a pea brained prick with your holier than thou horseshit
It's just an acknowledgment of the facts. Some have seen them since the beginning and refused to partake. Others saw them and chose to play along. Others still don't acknowledge them (or do and won't) and attempt to denigrate those who do. Then, we have those who actually think Trump is an idol.

And we laugh at them.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:32 PM   #82
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It's just an acknowledgment of the facts. Some have seen them since the beginning and refused to partake. Others saw them and chose to play along. Others still don't acknowledge them (or do and won't) and attempt to denigrate those who do. Then, we have those who actually think Trump is an idol.

And we laugh at them.
Some of you people really think your shit doesnt stink, that you have all the answers

There are an awful lot of genuine conservative Americans who disagree with your faction, and we laugh right back at you... we dont need your approval

Saying that anyone who still supports the president after the last spending bill are sheep, is laughable on its face
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Yes, I do. You're the poster boy for what Trump mentioned. Must make you feel good, eh?
You're the poster child for Rubio, the loser, so there's that.
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Some of you people really think your shit doesnt stink, that you have all the answers

There are an awful lot of genuine conservative Americans who disagree with your faction, and we laugh right back at you... we dont need your approval

Saying that anyone who still supports the president after the last spending bill are sheep, is laughable on its face
No, it stinks as much as yours.

Since Trump isn't and has never been a "genuine conservative," I'm not surprised that our positions are are mocked. But, I would caution that you're giving too much stock to the anti_Clinton vote as opposed to the pro-Trump vote. You have two examples here.

Well, it's just another example of Trump not being a conservative in the classical sense. No surprise at all to me considering what he proposed during the primaries and his historical record.
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You're the poster child for Rubio, the loser, so there's that.
Sure, I think Rubio would have stomped Clinton (and won the PV) and been a more conservative POTUS than your boy. Sure. But. the inmates got out.
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No, it stinks as much as yours.

Since Trump isn't and has never been a "genuine conservative," I'm not surprised that our positions are are mocked. But, I would caution that you're giving too much stock to the anti_Clinton vote as opposed to the pro-Trump vote. You have two examples here.

Well, it's just another example of Trump not being a conservative in the classical sense. No surprise at all to me considering what he proposed during the primaries and his historical record.
The republican party saw record numbers of newly minted republicans in the run-up to 2016, and a great many of them were former democrats... while the hold your nose/anyone but Hillary crowd was surely sizable, you're discounting the appeal of his message too much

All of those aforementioned new republicans could've voted Trump without doing that

As for his conservative bona fides, it only fair to judge him on what he has done while in office, and by that measure he has been quite conservative... the only issue thats arguable is his stance on trade, and even that is hotly debated among genuine conservatives

It seems to me he has bent over backwards trying to please the Cochises and Dongers of the world, but it sure hasnt done him any good with you
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And what’s with calling GOPe favorites “superstar”? Is that establishment code for cuck?
I suspect that it's a riff on my Paul Ryan thread. He probably wanted to draw the same Ruinos out who were attracted by their hatred of Ryan to my thread.
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I think he's trolling.
Yeah, no doubt. It's just such a juvenile level of trolling (even moreso than the average juvenile level of trolling that goes on here), that it's remarkable.
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why did Cochise change his name to Eleazar
I think he did it to make it hard for me to remember how to spell it. Eleazar, Eleazer, Elazear, etc. Buy then, I see that people have the same trouble with my name at times too, so I probably deserved it. #allaboutme
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Ahh. Love seeing the loonie fringer rightwingers on here take a beating from their own side.
You like seeing JPB calling me a cuck, eh?
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