Did you over-react to the work of Scott Pioli?

[jAZ]

There were a whole lot of people who lost patience with Scott Pioli starting after the hiring of Todd Haley and the 1st pick in the 2009 draft.

The Haley Hire sucked.
The Tyson Jackson pick sucked.
The Cassel/Vrabel trade sucked.
The whole 2009 Draft sucked.
Tamba Hali sucks.
The Dexter McCluster pick sucked.
The Tony Moeaki pick sucked.
The moves on the OL sucked.
The majority of the 2010 draft sucked.
Playing Thomas Jones so much sucks.

What else am I missing?

[keg in kc]

Reacting now would be reacting too soon. Post-season 2011 is when the first grades come in from me.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Reacting now would be reacting too soon. Post-season 2011 is when the first grades come in from me.

Yeah, well, you're just a rational human being.

Not fair.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Reacting now would be reacting too soon. Post-season 2011 is when the first grades come in from me.

Last year, I was saying that we needed to wait until at least this time this year to see. Well, we've seen continued progress, so up go the expectations... and out goes the timeline.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, well, you're just a rational human being.

Not fair.

I'll take that as a compliment. See was that so difficult?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Last year, I was saying that we needed to wait until at least this time this year to see. Well, we've seen continued progress, so up go the expectations... and out goes the timeline.

The Chiefs under Pioli have made more than 40 roster moves since taking over a 2 win team.

Outside of a few picks from the 2010 draft, what has Pioli done that has affected what happens on the field each Sunday? TJ and Lilja were nice, but they hardly offset his failures in 2009.

Details.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs under Pioli have made more than 40 roster moves since taking over a 2 win team.

Outside of a few picks from the 2010 draft, what has Pioli done that has affected what happens on the field each Sunday? TJ and Lilja were nice, but they hardly offset his failures in 2009.

Details.

He hired a young head coach who's grown over the last 2 seasons.

He hired 2 coordinators that have vastly improved the performance of this team.

He signed Jammal Charles to a 5 year, $32M contract extension.

He may very well have passed up drafting a high-risk, project QB in the 1st round in favor of a far more proven, project QB and a starting LB/locker room leader in the 2nd.

He put together an organization that took a 2 win team, made it a 4 win team, and then a (so far) 9 win team.

He's ultimately responsible for the success and failure of everything this team has done.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jAZ

He hired a young head coach who's grown over the last 2 seasons.

He hired 2 coordinators that have vastly improved the performance of this team.

He signed Jammal Charles to a 5 year, $32M contract extension.

He may very well have passed up drafting a high-risk, project QB in the 1st round in favor of a far more proven, project QB and a starting LB/locker room leader in the 2nd.

He put together an organization that took a 2 win team, made it a 4 win team, and then a (so far) 9 win team.

He's ultimately responsible for the success and failure of everything this team has done.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Go back to DC because you've done the requisite football forum posts to keep your membership.

JFC.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by jAZ

He hired a young head coach who's grown over the last 2 seasons.

He hired 2 coordinators that have vastly improved the performance of this team.

He signed Jammal Charles to a 5 year, $32M contract extension.

He may very well have passed up drafting a high-risk, project QB in the 1st round in favor of a far more proven, project QB and a starting LB/locker room leader in the 2nd.

He put together an organization that took a 2 win team, made it a 4 win team, and then a (so far) 9 win team.

He's ultimately responsible for the success and failure of everything this team has done.

And Pioli himself will tell you the Chiefs haven't done shit yet.

If he's not gonna lick his own balls, I sure as hell ain't gonna do it.

[Titty Meat]

Pioli's 2010 draft class was a success, looks like he brought in a good QB, hired some of the best coaches in the league. Most importantly he's turned a 2 win team into a playoff contending team in 2 years. Nobody thought that was possible.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

And Pioli himself will tell you the Chiefs haven't done shit yet.

If he's not gonna lick his own balls, I sure as hell ain't gonna do it.

At this point, you are deliberately twisting this into an argument that it isn't, just so you can avoid conceding anything. You appear to be trying to lick your own balls.

[HoneyBadger]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing idiot.

Go back to DC because you've done the requisite football forum posts to keep your membership.

JFC.

How does that make him an idiot? He was just stating what has taken place. Temper, temper.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by jAZ

There were a whole lot of people who lost patience with Scott Pioli starting after the hiring of Todd Haley and the 1st pick in the 2009 draft.

The Haley Hire sucked.
The Tyson Jackson pick sucked.
The Cassel/Vrabel trade sucked.
The whole 2009 Draft sucked.
Tamba Hali sucks.
The Dexter McCluster pick sucked.
The Tony Moeaki pick sucked.
The moves on the OL sucked.
The majority of the 2010 draft sucked.
Playing Thomas Jones so much sucks.

What else am I missing?

My Grade thus far is a B+, not quite an A, cause we were smoked in a couple games by divisional rivals which is unacceptable. But the rundown thus far has been supremely positive. We are knocking on the door of a division championship. Sure, some of the draft picks (namely the TJ pick) have been ridiculous reaches, and it makes you wonder had we found a true playmaker for the 3rd overall pick in the 2009 draft, just where we would be as a team right now? 9-5 though is nothing to complain about and is really solid considering the past few years we were a bottom five team.

And Jim Rome said it best when he said the NFL is much better off when KC is a legit football team and I definitely agree.

[Titty Meat]

Crennel & Weis: Who coached up DJ, Dorsey, Cassel,Bowe


Succop
Belcher
Berry
Moeaki
Lewis
Lilja
Jones


Combined with the foundation that was set in 2008 those are a great complement of players. What am I missing?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by billay

Crennel & Weis: Who coached up DJ, Dorsey, Cassel,Bowe


Succop
Belcher
Berry
Moeaki
Lewis
Lilja
Jones


Combined with the foundation that was set in 2008 those are a great complement of players. What am I missing?

Bowe was a 1,000 yard reciever before Haley arrived.

Engram, Thomas, Goff, Wade, Ryan and several others were brought in (as was Pendergast), before the draft that brought them Jackson, Magee, Washington, Brown and O'Connell. Let's not even get into who was on the board at the time those selections were made.

Succop is and was irrelevant. Connor Barth was solid and continues to be solid in Tampa Bay. While he's done reasonably well, this pick could have been used elsewhere.

[Hootie]

well my rep comments from even Dane supporters paints the picture of Dane lately...

no one knows what the **** is up with the guy...

he's angrier than anyone and tries picking a fight with everyone...dude just made a pretty solid post about Pioli and dane told him he was a ****ing idiot and to go back to DC...

what a ****ing dildo Dane is...seriously

but hey...even his buddies are starting to wonder what the **** is wrong with him so meh...oh well...maybe he'll mecca himself sooner or later (lets hope sooner)