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Old 02-20-2014, 06:37 PM   #31
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I'll never understand why anyone thinks McCluster is anything more than JAG.

He's had one good return where he did something other than run in open field created by the blocking.
Once people get over the fact that he's not Wes Welker, they'd see he's a solid but unspectacular football player.

As both a punt returner and receiver, surprisingly, it's not about being a great open field runner. The guy has guts and terrific hands, and as a punt returner, has really good field awareness. Those things don't earn you top slot receiver money, but it earns you a solid spot on any roster.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:07 PM   #32
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Once people get over the fact that he's not Wes Welker, they'd see he's a solid but unspectacular football player.

As both a punt returner and receiver, surprisingly, it's not about being a great open field runner. The guy has guts and terrific hands, and as a punt returner, has really good field awareness. Those things don't earn you top slot receiver money, but it earns you a solid spot on any roster.
I don't disagree with any of that.

But don't tell me he is any kind of playmaker, on offense or as a returner.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:11 PM   #33
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I don't disagree with any of that.

But don't tell me he is any kind of playmaker, on offense or as a returner.
I've never seen a "shifty" guy make fewer people miss. His only good cuts are when defenders are running at him full speed on punt returns
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:16 PM   #34
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I've never seen a "shifty" guy make fewer people miss. His only good cuts are when defenders are running at him full speed on punt returns
He's plenty shifty. Better than he gets credit for by critics, but not the Jamaal Charles shifty we thought we'd get. Bigger problem is he doesn't have breakaway speed and can't break tackles.

If we stop trying to make him Wes Welker, we'd see that he's shifty enough and has terrific hands. He isn't going to hit us home runs, but he's surprisingly a hell of a lot better than I though he'd ever be at getting you singles.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:13 PM   #35
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He's plenty shifty. Better than he gets credit for by critics, but not the Jamaal Charles shifty we thought we'd get. Bigger problem is he doesn't have breakaway speed and can't break tackles.

If we stop trying to make him Wes Welker, we'd see that he's shifty enough and has terrific hands. He isn't going to hit us home runs, but he's surprisingly a hell of a lot better than I though he'd ever be at getting you singles.
No, he isn't shifty.

He has one freakin' move.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:13 PM   #36
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It only went up because of the new Thursday night package.
You told me I didn't know what I was talking about when I said this a month or two ago. One of the reasons I gave was the new tv deals...which will cause the cap to rise SIGNIFICANTLY over the next few years. To say that the cap went up 4 million additional dollars over your projection strictly because of the new Thursday games doesn't even account for 1/4 of the factors involved.

If we extend Berry and restructure Hali, use the 2.5 rollover, the NFLPA utilizes the 2 million and we squeeze a little here and there, we will have closer to 15-20 million in cap space by the time it's all said and done.

I layed out all the math for this a long time ago.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:29 PM   #37
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True, but if used properly - and this year they started to do that, he got it done more times than not. Dude had 500+ receiving yards. I just think he affords the Chiefs a lot of options. IF he doesn't want to break the bank, there's no reason why the Chiefs shouldn't want to re-sign him and give him a nice raise in the process. I think he's a good, young ascending player who is a game-changer on special teams.
I've been one of Dexters biggest supporters on this site and would love to have him back, but this is an AMAZING class of available receivers both in free agency and the draft...the depth of available talent at the position this offseason should cause guys like Dexter to get a lot less than he probably thinks he will.

If we can ink the kid for 2-2.5 million per year, I'd bite...otherwise this is a time I'd look for a bargain receiver in free agency and come right back and draft another one in the third or fourth.

That's how to better utilize the limited funds the team has to build the roster.

He runs great routes, has the best hands on the team, Alex Smith trusts him, he is a productive returner and plays an important role on this team, but the probowl appearance probably priced him out of our range.

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I don't disagree with any of that.

But don't tell me he is any kind of playmaker, on offense or as a returner.
His deep speed prohibits him from being a game breaker, but the guy absolutely made a lot of plays last year.
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No, he isn't shifty.

He has one freakin' move.
These are 4 plays that show what he's capable of. Again, is he playmaker shifty like some commentators say he is? No. But these runs below are exceptional regardless of how good the blocking was.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantas...ter-31-yd-pass

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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantas...ster-19-yd-run

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-m...r-making-moves
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When we needed a big first down, Alex trusted Dexter more than anyone else and he delivered and was dependable in not only catching the ball while open or in traffic, but also was trustworthy in his routes and being where he needs to be. That's huge for a quarterback.

When we needed a spark on special teams, he gave us that consistently.

He is a good possession receiver and a talented returner.

Sorry milk and you know how much I respect your opinion on here, but we will never see eye to eye on Dexter.
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When we needed a big first down, Alex trusted Dexter more than anyone else and he delivered and was dependable in not only catching the ball while open or in traffic, but also was trustworthy in his routes and being where he needs to be. That's huge for a quarterback.

When we needed a spark on special teams, he gave us that consistently.

He is a good possession receiver and a talented returner.

Sorry milk and you know how much I respect your opinion on here, but we will never see eye to eye on Dexter.
Dexter generated fewer than 2 first downs per game.
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No, he really didn't.
He did. Just not the ankle-breaking variety. In the majority of the games toward the end of the season, he had at least one really big play, many on crucial 4th quarter drives.
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When we needed a big first down, Alex trusted Dexter more than anyone else and he delivered and was dependable in not only catching the ball while open or in traffic, but also was trustworthy in his routes and being where he needs to be. That's huge for a quarterback.

When we needed a spark on special teams, he gave us that consistently.

He is a good possession receiver and a talented returner.

Sorry milk and you know how much I respect your opinion on here, but we will never see eye to eye on Dexter.
Neither will we.

Dexter doesn't impress me, period.
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Dexter generated fewer than 2 first downs per game.
In the final drive against Denver game 2, Dexter makes a 28-yard diving reception
Against San Diego, with 1 minute left in the game, McCluster gets an 11-yard gain to set up a 5-yard go-ahead TD to Bowe (I think, from what I remember, he should have made the end zone but for a SD penalty)
In what was pretty much the Chiefs' final drive against Denver, game 1, Dexter makes an outrageously good back shoulder catch for 19 yards
And this isn't even counting the Oakland or Washington game, because they weren't close

He had a really excellent final stretch of the season. He was extremely reliable for the Chiefs not just in the 4th quarter, but on the final drive of the game
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