Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 74

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

**BigRedChief** · 05-30-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If he's only throwing 5 per start he's essentially worthless to us. A better plan would be for us to get him about 15 starts, hoping for about 6 IP per start. From there, transition him to a bullpen role once rosters expand. He probably ends up at 165 or so that way, but that isn't egregious.

You can't keep pitching Miller like you have been either. Martinez is suppose to be ready at the end of June. But, how do you spell Miller and Wacha? Just miss a spot start? Does that ever work?

Jewish Rabbi · 05-30-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You can't keep pitching Miller like you have been either. Martinez is suppose to be ready at the end of June. But, how do you spell Miller and Wacha? Just miss a spot start? Does that ever work?

I don't know how it would work out, but this is the only way I could see Carp being a starter this year. Could three of them fill two spots?

Pepe Silvia · 05-30-2013, 07:21 PM

11 pitch first for Wacha, even though its the Royals I like what i see so far.

**BigRedChief** · 05-30-2013, 07:55 PM

Good to hear Waino was working with Wacha in spring training with his curve ball. If he can put a good curve ball in with that awesome change.....

Jewish Rabbi · 05-30-2013, 07:57 PM

My god this kid is dealing.

**DeezNutz** · 05-30-2013, 08:09 PM

Man, congrats on this kid throwing a no-no in his first ML game. Impressive.

**BigRedChief** · 05-30-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

My god this kid is dealing.

Perfect game through 4 innings with a solid base hit. Not a bad start to a career.

Pepe Silvia · 05-30-2013, 08:18 PM

Kid is filthy.

**luv** · 05-30-2013, 09:32 PM

And, of course, it all goes downhill starting with Boggs. Get rid of him.

**BigRedChief** · 05-30-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

And, of course, it all goes downhill starting with Boggs. Get rid of him.

Man I am so pissed at Matheny. Putting Boggs in there was unforgivable. We all saw that coming. Hope that a pitcher can turn it around in a one run game. He hasn't pitch well at all. Took away a win for wacha. Damn thats the worst move I've seen him make.

Frazod · 05-30-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Man I am so pissed at Matheny. Putting Boggs in there was unforgivable. We all saw that coming. Hope that a pitcher can turn it around in a one run game. He hasn't pitch well at all. Took away a win for wacha. Damn thats the worst move I've seen him make.

I'd sooner have Franklin pitching at this point. That ****ing turd has got to go.

**luv** · 05-30-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Man I am so pissed at Matheny. Putting Boggs in there was unforgivable. We all saw that coming. Hope that a pitcher can turn it around in a one run game. He hasn't pitch well at all. Took away a win for wacha. Damn thats the worst move I've seen him make.

Yeah, the minute I heard that Boggs was coming in, I thought to myself, "aw shit. There goes that win."

Pepe Silvia · 05-30-2013, 09:40 PM

Mother**** you Boggs.

Frazod · 05-30-2013, 09:42 PM

Storming like hell here now, too. DTV is down hard.

Sounds like a good time to play Fallout.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-30-2013, 09:42 PM

He should have stayed with Maness or went to Blazek. Boggs was an arrogant, foolish decision. They deserve to lose this game.

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