NFL Draft Stafford vs Bradford - Page 3

irishjayhawk · 09-30-2008, 08:17 PM

I see the board pretty much split on the two right now.

What's your argument for who you would pick, assuming both come out and we have the choice?

**notorious** · 09-30-2008, 08:57 PM

Stafford doesn't impress me. Here are some stat comparisons:

J Freeman 6'6 250

2007 316-499 63% 3353 yds 6.7avg 18TD 11INT
2008 77-115 67% 1105 yds 9.6avg 11TD 2 INT

M Stafford 6'3 237

2007 194-348 56% 2523 yds 7.2 avg 19 TD 10 INT
2008 86-144 59% 1193yds 8.2avg 7TD 1 INT

Both are big and strong with HUGE arms. There is an obvious difference in strength of defenses they have played against. Stafford has the better coaching and a lot more talent around him to offset that difference.

I am not a huge fan of Freeman, hence the skepticisim of Stafford.

So somebody give me a reason why Stafford is so special. PLEASE convince me! I want to believe.

Spott · 09-30-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Jay Cutler is from the SEC.

I forget that Vanderbilt is in the SEC. It just doesn't seem right that there are academic schools in the South.

ChiefsCountry · 09-30-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

All from Stoops system. A heisman winner and national championship winner in there.....

Do you want to do the same with Mark Richt? Look at his FSU Quarterbacks.

Deberg_1990 · 09-30-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Wow the Big 12 really hasn't produced any good pro QB's.....that's not a good sign.

Like i tried to say...when Vince Young is your gold standard for conference QB's...........

T-post Tom · 09-30-2008, 08:59 PM

Croyle is the future, baby! When all ya haters gonna believe?

[I'm Herm Edwards and I approve this post.]

Mecca · 09-30-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Stafford doesn't impress me. Here are some stat comparisons:

J Freeman 6'6 250

2007 316-499 63% 3353 yds 6.7avg 18TD 11INT
2008 77-115 67% 1105 yds 9.6avg 11TD 2 INT

M Stafford 6'3 237

2007 194-348 56% 2523 yds 7.2 avg 19 TD 10 INT
2008 86-144 59% 1193yds 8.2avg 7TD 1 INT

Both are big and strong with HUGE arms. There is an obvious difference in strength of defenses they have played against. Stafford has the better coaching and a lot more talent around him to offset that difference.

I am not a huge fan of Freeman, hence the skepticisim of Stafford.

So somebody give me a reason why Stafford is so special. PLEASE convince me! I want to believe.

Well in fairness here Georgia's schedule is 100 times what Kstates is, and Georgia has some god awful WR's or had I should say now they have 1 guy.

ChiefsCountry · 09-30-2008, 09:00 PM

Historically the best QB's come from the Big Ten, PAC-10 or SEC mainly Alabama.

Mr. Laz · 09-30-2008, 09:06 PM

all i know is that i don't want Carl and Herm making this decision.

and i sure as hell don't want Herm Coaching him

Deberg_1990 · 09-30-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

all i know is that i don't want Carl and Herm making this decision.

and i sure as hell don't want Herm Coaching him

Good Point.

ChiefsCountry · 09-30-2008, 09:08 PM

If Stafford and Bradford stay in school, 2010 could end up looking like 1983 draft. Stafford, Bradford, Sanchez, Freeman.

**notorious** · 09-30-2008, 09:09 PM

You are absolutely correct on the schedule and the lack of WR's for Georgia. They also run two completely different systems of O. The stats aren't meant for solid evidence or the Brigham Young QB's from the 80's would all be HOFers. It just scares the hell out of me the very close similarities in the two of them. One is being touted as a top 3 pick and the other is going to be lucky to be drafted by round 4 according to a few on CP.

Sorry Mecca, I hope Stafford kicks some major ass so that when/if we pick him up it will set my mind as ease.

But if my mind were to be at ease I wouldn't be a Chiefs fan.

It's like Hold Em' when you are holding a possible straight but you need to get lucky on that one card (Stafford) to come on the river after the previous game you got screwed on the flop (Croyle).

Direckshun · 09-30-2008, 09:17 PM

I'm sold, completely and utterly, on Sam Bradford. There is maybe a handful of atmospheres in the NFL, and I'm being generous here, that compare to the pressure of being a starting true freshman at OU.

Bradford responds with 30+ touchdowns and 10 INTs. OU beats Mizzou twice. They almost make it to the national championship game. Kid is a leader who can step up to any level of any game. He hasn't wilted this year, either, still looking great as the season starts.

Stafford looks like he could be great, but Bradford will be great. And he will be great for 15 years.

Mark it down; I am a Bradford homer.

ChiefsCountry · 09-30-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm sold, completely and utterly, on Sam Bradford. There is maybe a handful of atmospheres in the NFL, and I'm being generous here, that compare to the pressure of being a starting true freshman at OU.

Bradford responds with 30+ touchdowns and 10 INTs. OU beats Mizzou twice. They almost make it to the national championship game. Kid is a leader who can step up to any level of any game. He hasn't wilted this year, either, still looking great as the season starts.

Stafford looks like he could be great, but Bradford will be great. And he will be great for 15 years.

Mark it down; I am a Bradford homer.

He was a redshirt freshman but otherwise good post.

Direckshun · 09-30-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Bradford plays behind a GREAT line, Id like to see him under presure.

So why not build a great line for him?

SBK · 09-30-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm sold, completely and utterly, on Sam Bradford. There is maybe a handful of atmospheres in the NFL, and I'm being generous here, that compare to the pressure of being a starting true freshman at OU.

Bradford responds with 30+ touchdowns and 10 INTs. OU beats Mizzou twice. They almost make it to the national championship game. Kid is a leader who can step up to any level of any game. He hasn't wilted this year, either, still looking great as the season starts.

Stafford looks like he could be great, but Bradford will be great. And he will be great for 15 years.

Mark it down; I am a Bradford homer.

That year he was sitting on the bench Stafford was out beating the SEC, as a true freshman.

I'm a Stafford homer.

09-30-2008, 08:17 PM
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09-30-2008, 08:57 PM	#31
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2965884	Stafford doesn't impress me. Here are some stat comparisons: J Freeman 6'6 250 2007 316-499 63% 3353 yds 6.7avg 18TD 11INT 2008 77-115 67% 1105 yds 9.6avg 11TD 2 INT M Stafford 6'3 237 2007 194-348 56% 2523 yds 7.2 avg 19 TD 10 INT 2008 86-144 59% 1193yds 8.2avg 7TD 1 INT Both are big and strong with HUGE arms. There is an obvious difference in strength of defenses they have played against. Stafford has the better coaching and a lot more talent around him to offset that difference. I am not a huge fan of Freeman, hence the skepticisim of Stafford. So somebody give me a reason why Stafford is so special. PLEASE convince me! I want to believe.
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09-30-2008, 08:59 PM	#35
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09-30-2008, 09:08 PM	#40
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09-30-2008, 09:09 PM	#41
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2965884	You are absolutely correct on the schedule and the lack of WR's for Georgia. They also run two completely different systems of O. The stats aren't meant for solid evidence or the Brigham Young QB's from the 80's would all be HOFers. It just scares the hell out of me the very close similarities in the two of them. One is being touted as a top 3 pick and the other is going to be lucky to be drafted by round 4 according to a few on CP. Sorry Mecca, I hope Stafford kicks some major ass so that when/if we pick him up it will set my mind as ease. But if my mind were to be at ease I wouldn't be a Chiefs fan. It's like Hold Em' when you are holding a possible straight but you need to get lucky on that one card (Stafford) to come on the river after the previous game you got screwed on the flop (Croyle).
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09-30-2008, 09:17 PM	#42
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4413447	I'm sold, completely and utterly, on Sam Bradford. There is maybe a handful of atmospheres in the NFL, and I'm being generous here, that compare to the pressure of being a starting true freshman at OU. Bradford responds with 30+ touchdowns and 10 INTs. OU beats Mizzou twice. They almost make it to the national championship game. Kid is a leader who can step up to any level of any game. He hasn't wilted this year, either, still looking great as the season starts. Stafford looks like he could be great, but Bradford will be great. And he will be great for 15 years. Mark it down; I am a Bradford homer.
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