Chiefs Andy blames himself, not Alex, for Chiefs' sputtering offense - Page 17

ShowtimeSBMVP · 10-16-2013, 10:05 AM

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- When you're 6-0 and coming off a 2-14 season, there really shouldn't be any complaining.

There can't be a football fan or scout or executive anywhere on the planet who could have forecast the amazing turnaround general manager John Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have conducted with the Chiefs -- certainly not to the extent of a 6-0 start.

But -- and isn't there always a but? -- there is one small area of concern that even Reid himself continues to address: a sluggish offense.

The Chiefs are 25th in the NFL in offense, chugging along at just 326 yards per game, a remarkably low figure for a team unbeaten this far into the season.

No one is more aware of the offense's struggles than Reid. The offense is his baby.

"Listen, I'm never going to make excuses," Reid said Monday. "That's not how we roll here. But the reality of it is we're a little young, but we have to get better.

"I see some phases we're getting better at. But I've got to do a better job of getting these guys in the right position to succeed. We've all got a little piece of the pie to get things right. We're learning on the fly, but we're going to get better."

The Chiefs likely will have to. Fans in this area have seen this script before. They've seen the Chiefs' teams of the 1990s soar through the regular season on the strength of their overpowering defenses and elite special teams.

Then those fans saw the same teams misfire in the postseason, mainly because the offense couldn't step up and contribute when it had to.

To avoid revisiting that script, the Chiefs must get more production out of quarterback Alex Smith, whose numbers keep sinking.

Smith is 26th in the league in passing yards at just 221.7 per game. He's also 20th in the league with a passer rating of 79.8.

But if you're looking for Reid to point any fingers toward Smith, you'll have a long wait.

Reid knows what kind of team he has. He knows, outside of Jamaal Charles and at times Dwayne Bowe, he doesn't have an explosive offense.

Reid also knows you can win in this league simply by not messing up, and letting the opponent beat itself. The Chiefs are No. 1 in the league in turnover ratio at plus-12, and don't have the appearance of a team that will beat itself anytime soon.

"Not turning the ball over is very important to us," Reid said, "especially when you have a solid defense like we have and the kicking game we have, both from our punter and our kicker."

In that respect, Smith is giving Reid all he needs, even if the offense has that familiar conservative look of the '90s. After all, there is a fine line between wanting more offensive production, and opening the offense up so much that more turnovers occur. Reid isn't likely to stand for that.

"You want to always start off by protecting the ball," Reid said. "There's no fine line there for me. ...

"Alex is doing that. And we need to point out the way Alex continues to manage this offense."

And that is the key in Reid's mind: He simply wants Smith to manage the game, which also includes managing the different personalities in the huddle.

"We've got a guy at quarterback, this kid, he's a stud," Reid said. "The things he does for this team is unbelievable. He's making people around him better. He takes the blame for things -- that's what good leaders do.

"At the same time, he's able to teach and explain to other guys with a clear head. Those are valuable things for us as coaches to see. I'm very pleased with the job (Smith) is doing."

In Reid's mind, let the other quarterbacks around the league possess the pretty passing numbers; Reid will take the ultimate one that counts. That is, for now, 6-0.

Still, Reid also has been around long enough to know that his offense will have to improve as the season wears on, even if it's just incrementally.

And that will be up to Reid himself as the play-caller and architect of the offense, something Reid has mentioned almost every week.

"I think we have done some good things, but we have plenty to work on," Reid said. "I don't think I've done a very good job of putting guys in position to make plays. That has been obvious at times. I have to do a better job."

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Jakemall · 10-17-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Save the 40 yard bomb against Ten among a couple others

Didn't happen. Didn't you read? He's not physically capable of throwing the ball that far.

Jakemall · 10-17-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Alex Smith has the good fortune of playing with the #1 defense.

He almost never has to play from behind.

If he did, I have a feeling we'd see a far more turnover prone QB. Right now he has the luxury of almost never having to fit the ball into a tight window when the team really needs it. He basically sat around with his thumb up his ass last game apart from one drive.

Shit, he's already had 6-7 INTs dropped this year. Those are going to be secured if he keeps it up.

Are we limiting this comment to this year only?

**The Franchise** · 10-17-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Are we limiting this comment to this year only?

Are we allowed to include the 6 years that he completely ****ing sucked?

ChiefsCountry · 10-17-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

links?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...50&postcount=3

warrior · 10-17-2013, 11:55 AM

Are we allowing the 6 to 7 dropped touchdowns they were almost to.

**Rausch** · 10-17-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Are we limiting this comment to this year only?

No, go ahead and throw out your completely irrelevant playoff stats now...

**Mav** · 10-17-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

No, go ahead and throw out your completely irrelevant playoff stats now...

Don't need to.

For the most part, since Jim Harbaugh took over in SF, the 49ers rarely trailed by more than one score. And if they did, with the exception of Philly in 2011, the 49ers lost.

The point is, that with Alex Smith at qb, you are rarely trailing by more than a TD.

That's pretty much common knowledge.

**Mav** · 10-17-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Of course. You'd have to either be trolling or completely delusional to suggest differently. It's him, Coach K, and Cal at the top of college basketball right now and it likely will remain that way until they retire/move on to the NBA.

Roy is in that conversation. And I don't think Cal is that great of a coach. he has a platinum tongue.....

mattschiefs · 10-17-2013, 12:03 PM

Things the Smith haters don't want to talk about

When you look at his numbers Smith hasn't been nearly as bad as some think. What's not getting talked about is what he has done with his legs. When you take his rushing yards into account he has gone over 300 yards twice this year already. And even with the Horrible outing against the Raiders he is averaging over 250 yards a game. He has not been that bad. He had a horrible game against Oakland that people are jumping on. But overall he has had more good games then bad

**Rausch** · 10-17-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Don't need to.

For the most part, since Jim Harbaugh took over in SF, the 49ers rarely trailed by more than one score. And if they did, with the exception of Philly in 2011, the 49ers lost.

Comforting...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-17-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

Things the Smith haters don't want to talk about

When you look at his numbers Smith hasn't been nearly as bad as some think. What's not getting talked about is what he has done with his legs. When you take his rushing yards into account he has gone over 300 yards twice this year already. And even with the Horrible outing against the Raiders he is averaging over 250 yards a game. He has not been that bad. He had a horrible game against Oakland that people are jumping on. But overall he has had more good games then bad

Yeahsssss, let's hope he runs some more/WAP!

Marcellus · 10-17-2013, 12:11 PM

I wish we had a QB who could get us down 17 points then bring us back.

That's a real team!

Its ****ing ridiculous we haven't gotten more than 10 points down this season and came back from it.

Maybe if we are lucky the Texans can get a 14 point lead on us and we can come back from that, that would be awesome.

I really hope so I will be at the game rooting for the Texans to score first so we can come from waaayyy behind like real teams do!

warrior · 10-17-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I wish we had a QB who could get us down 17 points then bring us back.

That's a real team!

Its ****ing ridiculous we haven't gotten more than 10 points down this season and came back from it.

Maybe if we are lucky the Texans can get a 14 point lead on us and we can come back from that, that would be awesome.

I really hope so I will be at the game rooting for the Texans to score first so we can come from waaayyy behind like real teams do!

Hey blame that crap on the defense

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-17-2013, 12:15 PM

I wish we had a QB that could match the production of the defense by even 2/3'rds!

That's a balanced team!

It's just ****ing LOVELY watching possession after possession go three and out!

May be if we're lucky, we'll have the highest scoring defense and special teams unit in the ENTIRE ****ING HISTORY OF THE NFL SINCE IT'S GODDAMNED, ****ING INCEPTION!

SUPER BOWL, BITCHES! 16-0!

-King- · 10-17-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I wish we had a QB who could get us down 17 points then bring us back.

That's a real team!

Its ****ing ridiculous we haven't gotten more than 10 points down this season and came back from it.

Maybe if we are lucky the Texans can get a 14 point lead on us and we can come back from that, that would be awesome.

I really hope so I will be at the game rooting for the Texans to score first so we can come from waaayyy behind like real teams do!

10-16-2013, 10:05 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3686009	Andy blames himself, not Alex, for Chiefs' sputtering offense KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- When you're 6-0 and coming off a 2-14 season, there really shouldn't be any complaining. There can't be a football fan or scout or executive anywhere on the planet who could have forecast the amazing turnaround general manager John Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have conducted with the Chiefs -- certainly not to the extent of a 6-0 start. But -- and isn't there always a but? -- there is one small area of concern that even Reid himself continues to address: a sluggish offense. The Chiefs are 25th in the NFL in offense, chugging along at just 326 yards per game, a remarkably low figure for a team unbeaten this far into the season. No one is more aware of the offense's struggles than Reid. The offense is his baby. "Listen, I'm never going to make excuses," Reid said Monday. "That's not how we roll here. But the reality of it is we're a little young, but we have to get better. "I see some phases we're getting better at. But I've got to do a better job of getting these guys in the right position to succeed. We've all got a little piece of the pie to get things right. We're learning on the fly, but we're going to get better." The Chiefs likely will have to. Fans in this area have seen this script before. They've seen the Chiefs' teams of the 1990s soar through the regular season on the strength of their overpowering defenses and elite special teams. Then those fans saw the same teams misfire in the postseason, mainly because the offense couldn't step up and contribute when it had to. To avoid revisiting that script, the Chiefs must get more production out of quarterback Alex Smith, whose numbers keep sinking. Smith is 26th in the league in passing yards at just 221.7 per game. He's also 20th in the league with a passer rating of 79.8. But if you're looking for Reid to point any fingers toward Smith, you'll have a long wait. Reid knows what kind of team he has. He knows, outside of Jamaal Charles and at times Dwayne Bowe, he doesn't have an explosive offense. Reid also knows you can win in this league simply by not messing up, and letting the opponent beat itself. The Chiefs are No. 1 in the league in turnover ratio at plus-12, and don't have the appearance of a team that will beat itself anytime soon. "Not turning the ball over is very important to us," Reid said, "especially when you have a solid defense like we have and the kicking game we have, both from our punter and our kicker." In that respect, Smith is giving Reid all he needs, even if the offense has that familiar conservative look of the '90s. After all, there is a fine line between wanting more offensive production, and opening the offense up so much that more turnovers occur. Reid isn't likely to stand for that. "You want to always start off by protecting the ball," Reid said. "There's no fine line there for me. ... "Alex is doing that. And we need to point out the way Alex continues to manage this offense." And that is the key in Reid's mind: He simply wants Smith to manage the game, which also includes managing the different personalities in the huddle. "We've got a guy at quarterback, this kid, he's a stud," Reid said. "The things he does for this team is unbelievable. He's making people around him better. He takes the blame for things -- that's what good leaders do. "At the same time, he's able to teach and explain to other guys with a clear head. Those are valuable things for us as coaches to see. I'm very pleased with the job (Smith) is doing." In Reid's mind, let the other quarterbacks around the league possess the pretty passing numbers; Reid will take the ultimate one that counts. That is, for now, 6-0. Still, Reid also has been around long enough to know that his offense will have to improve as the season wears on, even if it's just incrementally. And that will be up to Reid himself as the play-caller and architect of the offense, something Reid has mentioned almost every week. "I think we have done some good things, but we have plenty to work on," Reid said. "I don't think I've done a very good job of putting guys in position to make plays. That has been obvious at times. I have to do a better job." http://www.foxsportskansascity.com/n...75&feedID=5117 Sorry if Q
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mattschiefs Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Casino cash: $10004925	Things the Smith haters don't want to talk about When you look at his numbers Smith hasn't been nearly as bad as some think. What's not getting talked about is what he has done with his legs. When you take his rushing yards into account he has gone over 300 yards twice this year already. And even with the Horrible outing against the Raiders he is averaging over 250 yards a game. He has not been that bad. He had a horrible game against Oakland that people are jumping on. But overall he has had more good games then bad
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