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Old 12-05-2012, 10:16 PM  
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Joe Thomas Has No Love for Peyton Hillis
Joe Thomas unloads on Peyton Hillis for putting contract above team

Running back Peyton Hillis returns to Cleveland this weekend, a year after the Madden curse impacted him in an unprecedented way.

Hillis wanted a new contract, and his desire to cash in got in the way of his performance.

On Wednesday, Browns left tackle Joe Thomas confirmed what had been long suspected regarding a tumultuous season that included rumors and reports of Hillis using illness and injury as an excuse to demonstrate his displeasure with not getting paid.

“It was a terrible distraction,” Thomas said, via the Associated Press. “He crippled our offense. We were struggling to find anybody who could carry the ball after all the injuries we had. To have Peyton going through a contract dispute and basically refusing to play, it was a big distraction. But more than anything, he was our starting running back that was a good player who was going to help us be a successful offense.

“When he’s not there and you don’t have anybody to turn to, it makes it hard to win. And that’s the distraction, it’s not being successful.”

Hillis became the unexpected workhorse of the Cleveland running game in 2010, after second-round rookie Montarrio Hardesty was injured. Hillis racked up more than 1,100 yards, and he won a popular-vote tournament to become the cover athlete for Madden 12.

“He was everything people knew about him — hard-working, blue-collar, tough, would do anything for anybody on the team,” Thomas said. “All he cared about was winning, and then all of a sudden the next year, all he cared about was trying to get his new contract.”

Thomas specifically pointed to Hillis leaving the team to get married during the season, at a time when he needed treatment for injuries.

“It was kind of one weird thing after another more than anything,” Thomas said. “We have guys getting married during the season and it’s not a big deal. When you’re ‘injured’ [yes, Thomas used air quotes . . . take that, Kuselias] and you should be getting treatment, to go do your own thing repeatedly was just disrespectful more than anything to his teammates.”

Thomas said that players tried to get through to him, to no avail.

“You see a lot of guys in contract disputes, like Matt Forte,” Thomas said. “His solution was, ‘I’m going to go out and prove they have to have me and they can’t play without me.’ The frustrating thing to a lot of teammates was you would try to talk to him and you try to tell him, ‘That’s not the right way to do it if you want to get your big contract.’ He just wouldn’t listen to anybody.

“People who thought they were very close friends with him, he wouldn’t listen to anybody. He thought he knew the right way to do it and it ended up not being the right way and hurting everybody. Not just himself. It was a tough situation.”

Hillis ultimately signed a one-year deal with the Chiefs. Thanks to the comments from Thomas, who admirably went on the record and didn’t hide behind anonymity, it’s safe to say that Hillis will receive a less-than-warm welcome when he re-enters the Factory of Sadness on Sunday.

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Old 12-06-2012, 01:30 AM   #31
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I just think he had one amazing year in Cleveland and that was his ceiling.

The reality of Hillis is that he is just a sixth round running back from Arkansas that's lplaying to his draft slot.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:59 AM   #32
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an adult would pick up the phone and do this

Joe Thomas : Yo Peyton Hillis...stop frontin like you a work ethic player k?
Hillis: maaaaaayyyyn I ain't even trippin' just trying to get paid ya know?
Thomas: I feel yeah, shit don't sit right....
Hillis: I'll take you and your girl out to eat. we gets it straight.
Thomas: Aight see you at chili's
Hillis: peace


*Chili's*

Hillis: What up boy?
Joe Thomas: Sup whichu?

*girls hang up fur coats on racks at chili's that have water ski's on them"

Hillis: You try these pizza bites yet? They are off the chain son!
Joe Thomas: Yeah? I got some from totino's back at the crib, but you know, they just don't let you take pizza rolls into here and let you fry them up.
Hillis: Laughs
Joe Thomas: Yeah you know me, I'll be back in the fry room trying to broil up some pizza bites, burning shit. Burning my hands and shit...
Hillis: ohhhhhh shit ohhh shit ohhhhh shit *laughs*
*Girls* Can we have a Maui Blue Surfer drink Fishbowl drink?
Joe Thomas: Yo man about this contact... whats up?
Hillis: It's like this man. More Shows, more dough, more ho's, more clothes.
Joe Thomas: more pizza?
Hillis Joe Thomas *Laughs*

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an adult would pick up the phone and do this

Joe Thomas : Yo Peyton Hillis...stop frontin like you a work ethic player k?
Hillis: maaaaaayyyyn I ain't even trippin' just trying to get paid ya know?
Thomas: I feel yeah, shit don't sit right....
Hillis: I'll take you and your girl out to eat. we gets it straight.
Thomas: Aight see you at chili's
Hillis: peace


*Chili's*

Hillis: What up boy?
Joe Thomas: Sup whichu?

*girls hang up fur coats on racks at chili's that have water ski's on them"

Hillis: You try these pizza bites yet? They are off the chain son!
Joe Thomas: Yeah? I got some from totino's back at the crib, but you know, they just don't let you take pizza rolls into here and let you fry them up.
Hillis: Laughs
Joe Thomas: Yeah you know me, I'll be back in the fry room trying to broil up some pizza bites, burning shit. Burning my hands and shit...
Hillis: ohhhhhh shit ohhh shit ohhhhh shit *laughs*
*Girls* Can we have a Maui Blue Surfer drink Fishbowl drink?
Joe Thomas: Yo man about this contact... whats up?
Hillis: It's like this man. *reaches for ketchup to put on his pizza bites*
I just wanna get pai-----FUUUUUUUUUU
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:16 AM   #34
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Don't have a problem with an NFL player holding out. The window for a football player is short and owners can cut players just about whenever they feel like it and tear up contracts. Have to get paid.

Hillis seems to be garbage though.
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Right. He "betrayed" them. Gave away national security secrets. Joined the CIA.
when I read the thomas quotes it sounds like he felt betrayed by a team mate, I don't see the problem with this terminology. sounds like hillis skipped games, practices etc for injuries that were questionable to team mates, and instead of getting treatment went to do his own thing.

If you feel like you can't trust a co-worker to do his/her job, when they used to be able to do it, isn't that a betrayal of sorts? At the end of the day, you have to get over it and adapt and overcome those issues, but it doesn't disregard the initial letdown
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Right. He "betrayed" them. Gave away national security secrets. Joined the CIA.
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when I read the thomas quotes it sounds like he felt betrayed by a team mate, I don't see the problem with this terminology. sounds like hillis skipped games, practices etc for injuries that were questionable to team mates, and instead of getting treatment went to do his own thing.

If you feel like you can't trust a co-worker to do his/her job, when they used to be able to do it, isn't that a betrayal of sorts? At the end of the day, you have to get over it and adapt and overcome those issues, but it doesn't disregard the initial letdown
If Thomas wanted to say something, he should have said it when Hillis was still on the team.
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Who cares?

He hardly "betrayed" the Browns.

Do you know who "betrayed" the Browns? Mike Holmgren.

Instead of drafting RGIII, he traded away those rights.

That's betrayal.
St. Louis traded away the rights to the 2nd pick.
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If Thomas wanted to say something, he should have said it when Hillis was still on the team.
I agree the right time as a teammate is to say it when it matters and when it's face to face, behind closed doors. With the hope it can change behavior and improve the team.

But this story doesn't say that didn't happen, and right now it's the media looking for a story, it's pretty much a non-issue, I was just commenting about how it can be seen as a let down. All just my humble opinions, respectfully submitted for you and any lurkers to read.
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If Thomas wanted to say something, he should have said it when Hillis was still on the team.
"The frustrating thing to a lot of teammates was you would try to talk to him and you try to tell him, ‘That’s not the right way to do it if you want to get your big contract.’ He just wouldn’t listen to anybody."

Sounds like he and others did try to talk to Hillis while he was was on the team.
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when I read the thomas quotes it sounds like he felt betrayed by a team mate, I don't see the problem with this terminology. sounds like hillis skipped games, practices etc for injuries that were questionable to team mates, and instead of getting treatment went to do his own thing.

If you feel like you can't trust a co-worker to do his/her job, when they used to be able to do it, isn't that a betrayal of sorts? At the end of the day, you have to get over it and adapt and overcome those issues, but it doesn't disregard the initial letdown
We'll agree to disagree.

I think Joe Thomas appears to be a whiny crybaby. I also believe that it's pretty uncool to call out a former teammate.
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It was a joke.

Didn't you hear the rumor that Hillis wanted to quit football and join the CIA?
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