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Old 04-05-2017, 10:55 AM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***

Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

2011 Prelude:

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The 2017 season undoubtably begins in shadow of Yordano Ventura’s tragic death in the offseason. David Glass again bucked expectation and fan vitriol to go all in on his budget, and the core, despite the heartstring tugging trades of Davis and Dyson, remains primed for another push to the promised land. Will the Royals make another deep run into October? Or will they conduct the largest deadline sell off in Major League history?

Even with the expectations, predictions and hype spanning back from 2011 - the journey this team embarked on since 2013 was sweeter than anything any of us could have imagined. Even if this team goes on a 2004 styled losing binge this year, all is not lost. As this will push the Royals to conduct a sell off for minor league talent that will reignite the incredible optimism that permeated through this place in 2011. At the end of the day, this team actually did it, they somehow found a way to defy all of the odds that the MLB set against them to take the crown.
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2017's Burning Questions

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

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2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

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3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

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4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

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5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

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Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

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We’re all in again, folks. Buckle in and enjoy the ride.

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Old 05-19-2017, 10:23 AM   #1171
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That's not nearly enough for Herrera and Cain.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:39 AM   #1172
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Shaun Newkirk at Royals Review fills in with some details on Soto, pitching prospects.

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The profile on Soto is that of a prototypical right fielder, featuring above average power and decent speed. Heíll be more valuable at the plate than in the outfield defensively as he probably isnít anything more than an average fielder there with a less than stellar arm.

Heís not done growing yet of course as heís just 18 years old, and as he matures you could see him growing into more power (but heíll also lose speed from his already below average wheels). He has a decent idea at the plate, has posted strong walk-rates in the minors so far, and makes a lot of contact. If the hit tool grades out at the end as even a 50 then you are talking about a guy with 50 hit and 60 power who also gets on base. Itís not a star profile given his defensive profile and base running, but itís an easy everyday regular.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:43 AM   #1173
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Going for it this year really isn't worth it, even if you think we can make the playoffs. If we don't trade everyone, we basically **** this team in the ass for the next decade. We HAVE to trade the farm. Get prospects. Build for the future. Our farm system is barren.
Then technically we do NOT want to trade the farm.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:49 AM   #1174
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we went on a t shirt tuesday this year and got there 20 minutes before the game started and didnt get shirts.
Damn, wish I'd have known you were out there.
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:16 PM   #1175
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That's not nearly enough for Herrera and Cain.
Yeah, **** that.

I'd rather have Cain the rest of this season and take his compensation pick and the almost 2 years of club control on Herrera than Soto. It's like people forget Cain finished 3rd in MVP voting just a couple years ago. When healthy, he's one of the better OF's in the AL.

I don't even know if the Nats really are interested in Herrera AND Cain, but if they are they better start mentioning Robles in that type of deal. If not, DM should tell them to go **** themselves.

Herrera, Cain & Starling for Robles & lottery ticket arm would be a very fair deal for both teams. Royals get a high level almost major league ready OF to replenish losing Cain and Nats get a great CF for rest of season, an elite bullpen power arm and a 5 tool guy lottery ticket who really needs a change of scenery.

That trade immediately makes Nats the favorite in the NL and the most complete team (yes, even more so than the Cubs).
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:38 PM   #1176
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:58 PM   #1177
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Herrera hasn't been great this season and teams looking to acquire them will definitely use that to their advantage. I don't think he will return as much as we would think he should.
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Old 05-19-2017, 02:03 PM   #1178
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This is definitely a big weekend. If we can win our series and Cleveland loses theirs at Houston and Detroit loses to Texas then we really would be right back in it.
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Old 05-19-2017, 02:30 PM   #1179
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This is definitely a big weekend. If we can win our series and Cleveland loses theirs at Houston and Detroit loses to Texas then we really would be right back in it.

Is it too much to ask for a sweep of the Twinkies & have the Indians & Tigers to both be swept?


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Old 05-19-2017, 02:39 PM   #1180
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IMO no wild card in the Central as best teams clearly in East and West outside of maybe Indians. With that said the wager is can the Royals catch the Indians? That is also assuming you can catch the others. If I was to wager, I would say no way. I say start selling.
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Old 05-19-2017, 02:41 PM   #1181
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:30 PM   #1182
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I see where Schoenfield is coming from with that, and Cain and Herrera to the Nats make sense. But he makes two major mistakes in assessing the return:

1) The headline is a bat-only player with athletic questions and below average speed. The antithesis of what Moore looks for in an outfielder

2) the player is very far away from the major leagues. Moore will target guys who can help more immediately.

My proposed trade - Fedde + Stevenson + Kieboom looks a lot more like what KC would be looking for in return.

Maybe Kieboom and Fedde are too much for that deal from the Nats side (though a top 50 prospect, a top 75 prospect, and a 150-200 guy are a pretty good deal for a gold glove CF who can hit in the top of the lineup and a top 15 closer), but that's much closer.


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Old 05-19-2017, 04:08 PM   #1183
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:51 PM   #1184
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:52 PM   #1185
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