Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/packers-prefer-compensatory-picks-over-unrestricted-free-agents/


Packers General Manager Ted Thompson has a formula for building his team, and he’s sticking with it.

Thompson believes in building through the draft, not free agency, and that includes acquiring more draft picks by declining to sign unrestricted free agents. In the NFL, teams that lose more in free agency than they acquire get compensatory picks, and the Packers’ moves in free agency this year indicate that they’re already thinking about acquiring compensatory picks for next year. The NFL doesn’t public the precise formula used to determine compensatory picks, but the simple version is that if the unrestricted free agents you lose are better, higher-paid players than the unrestricted free agents you sign, then the NFL will compensate you the following year with compensatory picks.

As the Green Bay Press-Gazette points out, even the one big name the Packers have signed this offseason, Julius Peppers, was a free agent because he was released by the Bears, not because his previous contract expired. That means he won’t count as an unrestricted free agent addition for the Packers for the purpose of determining their compensatory picks next year.

Last year the Packers lost two key players, receiver Greg Jennings and linebacker Erik Walden, as unrestricted free agents. And the Packers didn’t sign any unrestricted free agents last year. As a result, this year they’re getting an extra third-round pick and an extra fifth-round pick as compensatory selections.

This year the Packers have again not signed away any players whose previous contract expired, but they have lost four players, center Evan Dietrich-Smith, receiver James Jones, defensive lineman C.J. Wilson and offensive lineman Marshall Newhouse. That means the Packers will almost certainly do well when the compensatory picks are passed out a year from now.

Building through the draft and declining to overspend in free agency would be a smart strategy even if the NFL didn’t have a compensatory pick system to reward frugal teams. But when compensatory picks are added to the equation, it’s easy to see why Thompson declines to go after free agents. The Packers have been successful this way. It’s surprising more teams haven’t copied them.


May not be popular here but Dorsey is doing exactly the same thing Thompson and Ozzie Newsome are doing, stockpile draft picks and let UFAs get overpaid elsewhere.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't see any way they get a 1st out of Alex Smith, particularly not on a one-year contract.

You're also talking about building through the draft like this is Madden and you just unload everybody. When in reality teams are usually still trying to win even when in a rebuild.

As a fan of capitalism, I don't fault Hunt for wanting to put butts in the seats while also trying to build a champ. He is a business man, and this is his product. He is trying to sell it the best that he can both for now and in the future.

[Iconic]

No one was there in the backroom when they where discussing the Smith trade. Dorsey isn't stupid; he's definitely one of the more conservative GM's in the NFL so I'm sure he had his reasons.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

2nd round picks have about a 50% hit rate. Alex Smith for 2 second round picks means you, by the odds, traded away 1 likely starter for your starting QB.

http://www.aolnews.com/2009/04/20/ca...nchez-jenkins/

draft picks matter, or they don't...

people can't blather out of one side of their mouths that 'we're building through the draft' and then say something as ****ing stupid as you just did

if Dorsey is a good drafter, and his whole philosophy is building through the draft, then giving up 2 seconds for a benched QB matters and is fair game for criticism in the context of his long term plans

but then you still have scabs in your lower intestine from the damage Cassel did to you, so maybe this is the best you have to offer

[Snapplez]

Originally Posted by Iconic

No one was there in the backroom when they where discussing the Smith trade. Dorsey isn't stupid; he's definitely one of the more conservative GM's in the NFL so I'm sure he had his reasons.

Droppin serious bankroll on guys like Devito, Fasano, and Daniel. Conservative as ****

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Iconic

No one was there in the backroom when they where discussing the Smith trade. Dorsey isn't stupid; he's definitely one of the more conservative GM's in the NFL so I'm sure he had his reasons.

Based on what evidence?

He's only been a GM for about 14 months.

[rico]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You think wrong.

I'm mad because he says he's building through the draft while trading away draft picks.

If you don't see those two things as contradictory, you're just being stubborn because they absolutely are.

Yeah, when I read the OP, my first thought was, "well then, what the **** happened to our 2nd round pick this year that would come in friggy-diggy-freaking handy???"

Then I started crying again.

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by Snapplez

Droppin serious bankroll on guys like Devito, Fasano, and Daniel. Conservative as ****

It was his first year in a dumpster fire. He had to put it out with something...

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Based on what evidence?

He's only been a GM for about 14 months.

Thompson and Dorsey both stem from the Ron Wolf tree.

[Snapplez]

Originally Posted by Iconic

It was his first year in a dumpster fire. He had to put it out with something...

Put out the dumpster fire... by burnin money on garbage?

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by Snapplez

Put out the dumpster fire... by burnin money on garbage?

If going to the playoffs and giving up a 28 point lead means burning money then sure...

[the Talking Can]

i like dorsey, but he got fleeced by the 49ers and the agent of every FA he signed last year...and got nothing for Albert, even as he wasted the #1 pick on the draft on his replacement

if cooper doesn't play well for 7 games, it looks a whole lot shittier

[Messier]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i like dorsey, but he got fleeced by the 49ers and the agent of every FA he signed last year...and got nothing for Albert, even as he wasted the #1 pick on the draft on his replacement

if cooper doesn't play well for 7 games, it looks a whole lot shittier

If I felt the way you do about the moves last year, I'd hate Dorsey with a passion.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Iconic

Thompson and Dorsey both stem from the Ron Wolf tree.

He wasn't ever a GM.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Messier

If I felt the way you do about the moves last year, I'd hate Dorsey with a passion.

hard to argue too much with results...



even if they left us in our current situation, unable to sign FAs, no 2nd round pick, no compensation for albert for another year, etc...still far behind denver...and a non-elite QB that is probably going to get 90 mill

[temper11]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

if Dorsey is a good drafter, and his whole philosophy is building through the draft, then giving up 2 seconds for a benched QB matters and is fair game for criticism in the context of his long term plans

The benched QB was one of the highest rated QB's in the league at the time of his injury. It's not like he gave up the picks for a perennial clip board holder.