*** 2014 Prospects: Chiefs Visits / Met / Work Outs *** - Page 2

Dante84 · 09:52 PM

Hello, friends; It's that time of year again.

3 years ago, this thread had a few guys that we selected in the draft. 2 years ago, this thread had 4 of our 8 draft picks. Last year we got Kelce, Fisher from the visits we recorded.

Last year, around this time, the big question was the QB. Dorsey and Reid did their homework, and spoke with almost every legitimate candidate. After this, they chose to make the trade for Alex Smith. Conversely, we brought in almost no Safeties or CB's, and ended up picking up a bunch in FA.

This should help us get an idea not only for the draft, but also to get an idea for what positions Dorsey and Reid feel need improvement. It might foretell a trade or FA acquisition.

We can apply that same logic to this year's search. We desperately need a Safety, and we need WR's. I could see us visiting with a bunch of safeties, only to snag a big one via trade or FA. We might not bring in a lot of WR's, and grab a bunch via FA.

This year will allow us to monitor Dorsey and Reid trends and patterns, because we will have two years of data to work off of instead of one.

I am going to try to link to comprehensive player profiles when they exist, courtesy of draftbreakdown.com. For some of the lesser-known guys, it may just be a random video or profile from their team website.

Reminder as to how this works: When you guys see a solid lead on someone we are interested in, post it in here (links, please). Still trying to keep this sucker legit.

Offense
QB
Tahj Boyd, Clemson
Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois
David Fales, San Jose State
Aaron Murray, Georgia
Connor Shaw, South Carolina
Tyler Russell, Mississippi State
Brett Smith, Wyoming
Derek Carr, Fresno State

RB
Charles Sims, West Virginia
Senorise Perry, Louisville
Dominique Williams, Wagner
Chad Abram, Florida State (Fullback)
Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern
De'Anthony Thomas, Oregon

WR
Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest
Josh Huff, Oregon
Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma
Ryan Grant, Tulane
Solomon Patton, Florida
Marqise Lee, University of Southern California
Mike Evans, Texas A&M
Brandin Cooks, Oregon State
Josh Ford, University of Kansas
Maurice Woodard, Lincoln

TE
Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
Erik Swoope, Miami - Basketball Player
Justin Jones, East Carolina

OT
Billy Turner, North Dakota State (OT/G) *Multiple meetings
Ja'Wuan James, Tennessee
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, McGill University (CAN)
Garrett Scott, Marshall

G
Wes Johnson, Vanderbilt

C

Defense
CB
Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska
Keith McGill, Utah
Pierre Desir, Lindenwood *Multiple meetings
E.J. Gaines, Missouri
Jason Verrett, TCU
Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
Brandon Dixon, Northwest Missouri State
Shaquille Richardson, Arizona
Keith Lewis, Virginia University of Lynchburg *Multiple meetings
Sammy Seamster, Middle Tennessee State
Walt Aikens, Liberty
Ryan White, Auburn
Qua Cox, Jacksonville State
Brandon McCladdie, The Citadel

S
Terrence Brooks, Florida State
Craig Loston, LSU
Ahmad Dixon, Baylor
Marqueston Huff, Wyoming
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama
Calvin Pryor, Louisville
Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt
Lonnie Ballentine, Memphis
Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois
Kimario McFadden, South Carolina State
Nickoe Whitley, Mississippi State

OLB
Christian Jones, Florida State (DE/OLB)
Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech
Kyle Van Noy, BYU
Carlos Fields, Winston-Salem State
James Davidson, UTEP (OLB/DE)
Justin Jackson, Wake Forest
Derrell Johnson, East Carolina

ILB
Telvin Smith, Florida State
Chris Borland, Wisconsin

DE
IK Enemkpali, Louisiana Tech
Chris Smith, Arkansas (DE/OLB)
Zach Moore, Concordia
James Gayle, Virginia Tech
Tevin Mims, University of South Florida
Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame
Kony Ealy, Missouri
Colton Underwood, Illinois State
Justin Anderson, UMass
Aaron Lynch, South Florida

DT
Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
Will Sutton, Arizona State *Multiple meetings
Louis Nix, Notre Dame
Jimmy Staten, Middle Tennessee State
Kona Schwenke, Notre Dame
Dominique Easley, Florida

Dante84 · 01-30-2014, 11:41 PM

I just watched Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia. I watched his tape against a pud team (William and Mary) and against a decent team (Baylor).

Positives:
- He is great at recognizing pressure and picking up the defender.
- He has really good vision, and reads his blocks well.
- Very decisive change of direction, and alters his run very well.
- His feet pump very fast, and he churns his feet. Because of this, he typically falls forward after contact for an additional yard or two, which could be huge for picking up 1st downs.

Negatives:
- For as much as he pumps his feet, he doesn't appear to have elite speed. It looks like he should be faster. This scares me because in the NFL, the defenders are much faster and will make contact very quickly. He just doesn't look like a game-breaker.
- He doesn't seem to break tackles. It doesn't take an entire team to bring him down, and if the tackler gets a decent chance at a tackle, he usually makes it and ends the play.
- For as great as he is at blocking in the pocket for the QB, he is terrible at blocking in the open field. He runs straight up, and is hesitant to make contact. The ballcarrier he is blocking usually ends up running into him and blows the play, or throws Sims out of the way. This is particularly troubling as our backup RB better be able to block in the open field on ST's - Toub won't take kindly to shit blocking.

Dante84 · 01-31-2014, 12:03 AM

I just watched Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest. I watched his tape against a great Clemson team, and NC State. They were night and day different. Clemson was blah, and NC State he was everywhere.

Positives:
- This guy is an athlete. He has the same bouncey-step and go move that Welker, Edelman, and Woodhead have (yes, they are all white). You'll see what I mean when you watch the NC State tape.
- He is quick AND fast. Quick first step, and then burns when he's got grass.
- He has a knack for finding the soft spot in the defense in the NC State game. He gives his QB some looks, but the QB doesn't always pull the trigger, or pull it accurately.
- He seems to catch with his hands and not his body or forearms.

Negatives:
- Do they only have him run 2 routes against Clemson? He either stays on the line of scrimmage and waits for the ball, or he runs a 5-7 yard curl. Didn't seem him get deep, or very open against tight coverage in this game.
- 2 or 3 drops against Clemson. Silly, nervous, shit-your-pants get off the field drops.
- When he realizes the ball isn't coming to him, his body language sucks and he stops playing. Drops his head and walks like he's throwing a little personal pity party.
- He seems to take an extra beat when catching and securing the ball. Some he double clutched, other times, he stares at it in his hands after the catch before snapping awake and making a football move.

Dante84 · 02-05-2014, 09:13 PM

I just watched Josh Huff, WR, Oregon. I watched his tape against Oregon St. and against Texas.

Positives:
- Knows how to find space and get open
- Didn't see a single drop
- Made several clutch catches in the Oregon St. game
- Could have made more plays if his QB looked his way. He was always, always getting open.
- Decent run blocking
- Has no fear going across the middle
- Great burst
- A very physical receiver. Almost reminds me of an offensive version of Brandon Flowers.

Negatives:
- I honestly didn't see one.

I ****ing love this guy!!!

Direckshun · 02-05-2014, 09:20 PM

Fun thread.

Keep updating.

Frosty · 02-06-2014, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

I just watched Josh Huff, WR, Oregon. I watched his tape against Oregon St. and against Texas.

Positives:
- Knows how to find space and get open
- Didn't see a single drop
- Made several clutch catches in the Oregon St. game
- Could have made more plays if his QB looked his way. He was always, always getting open.
- Decent run blocking
- Has no fear going across the middle
- Great burst
- A very physical receiver. Almost reminds me of an offensive version of Brandon Flowers.

Negatives:
- I honestly didn't see one.

I ****ing love this guy!!!

Keep in mind that my Beavers have a shitty defensive coordinator that doesn't have the first clue how to defend the spread. A lot of receivers look great against Oregon State.

OldSchool · 02-06-2014, 04:49 PM

Huff= Golden Tate

Dante84 · 02-06-2014, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Huff= Golden Tate

I feel like Huff is a little more explosive and therefore could be more of a target in the deep game than Tate is.

OldSchool · 02-07-2014, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

I feel like Huff is a little more explosive and therefore could be more of a target in the deep game than Tate is.

I agree, but he is the player that Huff is the most similar to. Unless you wanna say Percy Harvin/Randall Cobb. Both Harvin and Tate ran in the low 4.4s.

tecumseh · 02-18-2014, 11:59 PM

Nice thread. Thanks for the homework. reallly good stuff.

Dante84 · 02-19-2014, 07:55 AM

Thanks!

Let's be sure to catch a any tidbits that come from the combine.

"Chiefs scouts were talking to..."
"Player X interviewed with..."
"Chiefs staff was watching player X closely during Y drill"

That's the stuff we're looking for.

OldSchool · 02-19-2014, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Thanks!

Let's be sure to catch a any tidbits that come from the combine.

"Chiefs scouts were talking to..."
"Player X interviewed with..."
"Chiefs staff was watching player X closely during Y drill"

That's the stuff we're looking for.

Is there any writer that tweets stuff like that about the Chiefs specifically?

jonzie04 · 02-19-2014, 10:14 AM

damn, campanaro is quick as hell. i'd be happier than all get out with either guy! i'm praying to god the chiefs don't take a wr in the first round. this draft is so deep at wr it's insane.

Dante84 · 02-19-2014, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Is there any writer that tweets stuff like that about the Chiefs specifically?

Well, there's a lot of local reporters and bloggers, but many times, the info we're looking for here is hidden within bullet notes from random reporters.

For instance, a Panther's beat writer could mention that he saw a prospect talking to Carolina's brass, and the Bengals and Chiefs reps were there as well.

Or a prospect could be talking to his hometown/college newspaper, and namedrop who he spoke with at the combine. Or his agent could say what teams are asking about him.

Its totally random and scatter shot, but great info to catch. Some posters are really, really good at finding it, and it helps the thread.

Dante84 · 02-20-2014, 04:15 PM

I will add Billy Turner later tonight.

Edit - already got him.

This makes twice that we've spoken to him.

Sfeihc · 02-20-2014, 04:38 PM

He would be the perfect fit for the CHIEFS. I hope he is on the board when they pick in the 3rd round.

01-21-2014, 01:27 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1871996 VARSITY	* 2014 Prospects: Chiefs Visits / Met / Work Outs * Hello, friends; It's that time of year again. 3 years ago, this thread had a few guys that we selected in the draft. 2 years ago, this thread had 4 of our 8 draft picks. Last year we got Kelce, Fisher from the visits we recorded. Last year, around this time, the big question was the QB. Dorsey and Reid did their homework, and spoke with almost every legitimate candidate. After this, they chose to make the trade for Alex Smith. Conversely, we brought in almost no Safeties or CB's, and ended up picking up a bunch in FA. This should help us get an idea not only for the draft, but also to get an idea for what positions Dorsey and Reid feel need improvement. It might foretell a trade or FA acquisition. We can apply that same logic to this year's search. We desperately need a Safety, and we need WR's. I could see us visiting with a bunch of safeties, only to snag a big one via trade or FA. We might not bring in a lot of WR's, and grab a bunch via FA. This year will allow us to monitor Dorsey and Reid trends and patterns, because we will have two years of data to work off of instead of one. I am going to try to link to comprehensive player profiles when they exist, courtesy of draftbreakdown.com. For some of the lesser-known guys, it may just be a random video or profile from their team website. Reminder as to how this works: When you guys see a solid lead on someone we are interested in, post it in here (links, please). Still trying to keep this sucker legit. Offense QB Tahj Boyd, Clemson Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois David Fales, San Jose State Aaron Murray, Georgia Connor Shaw, South Carolina Tyler Russell, Mississippi State Brett Smith, Wyoming Derek Carr, Fresno State RB Charles Sims, West Virginia Senorise Perry, Louisville Dominique Williams, Wagner Chad Abram, Florida State (Fullback) Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern De'Anthony Thomas, Oregon WR Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest Josh Huff, Oregon Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma Ryan Grant, Tulane Solomon Patton, Florida Marqise Lee, University of Southern California Mike Evans, Texas A&M Brandin Cooks, Oregon State Josh Ford, University of Kansas Maurice Woodard, Lincoln TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington Erik Swoope, Miami - Basketball Player Justin Jones, East Carolina OT Billy Turner, North Dakota State (OT/G) Multiple meetings Ja'Wuan James, Tennessee Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, McGill University (CAN) Garrett Scott, Marshall G Wes Johnson, Vanderbilt C Defense* CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska Keith McGill, Utah Pierre Desir, Lindenwood Multiple meetings E.J. Gaines, Missouri Jason Verrett, TCU Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State Brandon Dixon, Northwest Missouri State Shaquille Richardson, Arizona Keith Lewis, Virginia University of Lynchburg Multiple meetings Sammy Seamster, Middle Tennessee State Walt Aikens, Liberty Ryan White, Auburn Qua Cox, Jacksonville State Brandon McCladdie, The Citadel S Terrence Brooks, Florida State Craig Loston, LSU Ahmad Dixon, Baylor Marqueston Huff, Wyoming Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama Calvin Pryor, Louisville Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt Lonnie Ballentine, Memphis Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois Kimario McFadden, South Carolina State Nickoe Whitley, Mississippi State OLB Christian Jones, Florida State (DE/OLB) Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech Kyle Van Noy, BYU Carlos Fields, Winston-Salem State James Davidson, UTEP (OLB/DE) Justin Jackson, Wake Forest Derrell Johnson, East Carolina ILB Telvin Smith, Florida State Chris Borland, Wisconsin DE IK Enemkpali, Louisiana Tech Chris Smith, Arkansas (DE/OLB) Zach Moore, Concordia James Gayle, Virginia Tech Tevin Mims, University of South Florida Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame Kony Ealy, Missouri Colton Underwood, Illinois State Justin Anderson, UMass Aaron Lynch, South Florida DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota Will Sutton, Arizona State Multiple meetings Louis Nix, Notre Dame Jimmy Staten, Middle Tennessee State Kona Schwenke, Notre Dame Dominique Easley, Florida Last edited by Dante84; 05-06-2014 at 09:52 PM..*
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01-30-2014, 11:41 PM	#16
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1871996 VARSITY	I just watched Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia. I watched his tape against a pud team (William and Mary) and against a decent team (Baylor). Positives: - He is great at recognizing pressure and picking up the defender. - He has really good vision, and reads his blocks well. - Very decisive change of direction, and alters his run very well. - His feet pump very fast, and he churns his feet. Because of this, he typically falls forward after contact for an additional yard or two, which could be huge for picking up 1st downs. Negatives: - For as much as he pumps his feet, he doesn't appear to have elite speed. It looks like he should be faster. This scares me because in the NFL, the defenders are much faster and will make contact very quickly. He just doesn't look like a game-breaker. - He doesn't seem to break tackles. It doesn't take an entire team to bring him down, and if the tackler gets a decent chance at a tackle, he usually makes it and ends the play. - For as great as he is at blocking in the pocket for the QB, he is terrible at blocking in the open field. He runs straight up, and is hesitant to make contact. The ballcarrier he is blocking usually ends up running into him and blows the play, or throws Sims out of the way. This is particularly troubling as our backup RB better be able to block in the open field on ST's - Toub won't take kindly to shit blocking. __________________ ..
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01-31-2014, 12:03 AM	#17
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1871996 VARSITY	I just watched Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest. I watched his tape against a great Clemson team, and NC State. They were night and day different. Clemson was blah, and NC State he was everywhere. Positives: - This guy is an athlete. He has the same bouncey-step and go move that Welker, Edelman, and Woodhead have (yes, they are all white). You'll see what I mean when you watch the NC State tape. - He is quick AND fast. Quick first step, and then burns when he's got grass. - He has a knack for finding the soft spot in the defense in the NC State game. He gives his QB some looks, but the QB doesn't always pull the trigger, or pull it accurately. - He seems to catch with his hands and not his body or forearms. Negatives: - Do they only have him run 2 routes against Clemson? He either stays on the line of scrimmage and waits for the ball, or he runs a 5-7 yard curl. Didn't seem him get deep, or very open against tight coverage in this game. - 2 or 3 drops against Clemson. Silly, nervous, shit-your-pants get off the field drops. - When he realizes the ball isn't coming to him, his body language sucks and he stops playing. Drops his head and walks like he's throwing a little personal pity party. - He seems to take an extra beat when catching and securing the ball. Some he double clutched, other times, he stares at it in his hands after the catch before snapping awake and making a football move. __________________ ..
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02-05-2014, 09:13 PM	#18
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1871996 VARSITY	I just watched Josh Huff, WR, Oregon. I watched his tape against Oregon St. and against Texas. Positives: - Knows how to find space and get open - Didn't see a single drop - Made several clutch catches in the Oregon St. game - Could have made more plays if his QB looked his way. He was always, always getting open. - Decent run blocking - Has no fear going across the middle - Great burst - A very physical receiver. Almost reminds me of an offensive version of Brandon Flowers. Negatives: - I honestly didn't see one. I ****ing love this guy!!! __________________ ..
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02-05-2014, 09:20 PM	#19
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02-06-2014, 04:49 PM	#21
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02-19-2014, 07:55 AM	#25
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1871996 VARSITY	Thanks! Let's be sure to catch a any tidbits that come from the combine. "Chiefs scouts were talking to..." "Player X interviewed with..." "Chiefs staff was watching player X closely during Y drill" That's the stuff we're looking for. __________________ ..
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02-19-2014, 10:14 AM	#27
jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5856817	damn, campanaro is quick as hell. i'd be happier than all get out with either guy! i'm praying to god the chiefs don't take a wr in the first round. this draft is so deep at wr it's insane.
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02-20-2014, 04:15 PM	#29
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1871996 VARSITY	I will add Billy Turner later tonight. Edit - already got him. This makes twice that we've spoken to him. __________________ ..
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Sfeihc It's All Good Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $10010133	He would be the perfect fit for the CHIEFS. I hope he is on the board when they pick in the 3rd round.
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