Chiefs Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall - Page 35

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-08-2013, 07:59 PM

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.

Priest31kc · 01-20-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I think he'll be the top pick. Out of all the QBs, he's the cleanest.

However, why when someone cites the bowl game do Geno lovers get all bent out of shape?

Because it was ONE game. One meaningless game in the snow in which he didn't really play that badly. And it was the only game most Chiefs fans have seen Geno play & they let that one game make their decision for them instead of looking at his whole career.

ArrowheadMagic · 01-20-2013, 10:06 AM

All pre draft QB's have flaws, its the responsibility of the FO to weed thru those and decide which one fits our new system. I would really like to see Geno pull away as the #1 QB thru the process of the next couple of months. I just want us to pick a QB at #1 and roll with them

Biggest criticism of Geno is mental toughness, i.e. ability to win coming from behind. But how much of that is on the WV coaching staff? A lot of questions about the QB's will be answered in the next couple of months.

Al Bundy · 01-20-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

All pre draft QB's have flaws, its the responsibility of the FO to weed thru those and decide which one fits our new system. I would really like to see Geno pull away as the #1 QB thru the process of the next couple of months. I just want us to pick a QB at #1 and roll with them

Biggest criticism of Geno is mental toughness, i.e. ability to win coming from behind. But how much of that is on the WV coaching staff? A lot of questions about the QB's will be answered in the next couple of months.

This is the key to it. If that is the biggest reason for any issues then Kansas City has the right guy to fix it.

Titty Meat · 01-20-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Because it was ONE game. One meaningless game in the snow in which he didn't really play that badly. And it was the only game most Chiefs fans have seen Geno play & they let that one game make their decision for them instead of looking at his whole career.

What about the Kstate game or the texas tech game? Look I draft Geno #1 but I think there are some serious questions about him.

ArrowheadMagic · 01-20-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

This is the key to it. If that is the biggest reason for any issues then Kansas City has the right guy to fix it.

Of course some of that falls on Geno, at times he pressed and tried to do too much. How frustrating is it to drive for a TD and then watch your defense give up a 5 play 3 min. drive for a score? At this time in the process, IMO, Geno has less concerns than Wilson.

Priest31kc · 01-20-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

What about the Kstate game or the texas tech game? Look I draft Geno #1 but I think there are some serious questions about him.

What about them? He didn't play that badly in either one, especially the Tech game.

And so what if he did? A couple games in which he didn't tear it up means he's not good?

And what are your serious questions about him?

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-20-2013, 10:19 AM

I would hope everyone would agree that at least taking a chance on Geno,resigning Albert, and having the 2nd pick to fill another hole is a much better scenerio than taking this Jekyll dude, letting Albert walk, and grabbing the 4th or 5th best QB option in round 2.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-20-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

What about the Kstate game or the texas tech game? Look I draft Geno #1 but I think there are some serious questions about him.

Serious questions?

ChiefMojo · 01-20-2013, 10:21 AM

Basically I look at it this way with his three worst games. Two of those three came in bad weather and it wasn't like he was horrible in those two. At Tech he was fighting a HORRIBLE wind and of course in the bowl game it was really cold and snowy. The only game that outside elements weren't a issue was the Kansas State game. He just pure and simple did not perform well against the Cats but then again KSU was no push-over as we all know. Outside of those three games he performed very well.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-20-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

What about them? He didn't play that badly in either one, especially the Tech game.

And so what if he did? A couple games in which he didn't tear it up means he's not good?

And what are your serious questions about him?

He didn't go 23/24 300 yards 3 scores 0 turnovers and no sacks so they were bad games.

R8RFAN · 01-20-2013, 10:22 AM

This would be the best "Can't Miss" pick for the Cheapos

ArrowheadMagic · 01-20-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

I would hope everyone would agree that at least taking a chance on Geno,resigning Albert, and having the 2nd pick to fill another hole is a much better scenerio than taking this Jekyll dude, letting Albert walk, and grabbing the 4th or 5th best QB option in round 2.

In a year with a supposedly "weak" QB class, Taking anything less than the best is foolish. Re sign Albert, draft a QB, fill holes thru FA and remaining picks.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-20-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

This would suck as bad as taking T-Jack

FYP

R8RFAN · 01-20-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

FYP

Too bad you guys had to have the #1 pick in a year there are no QB's

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-20-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Too bad you guys had to have the #1 pick in a year there are no QB's

Oh, there are QB's. Hopefully the Faid are stupid enough to stick with Palmer/Pryor and waste their bad year on Teo.

01-08-2013, 07:59 PM
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/ For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock. The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports. The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft. How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency. The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk. The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire. Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating. Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent. Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability. But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency. All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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ArrowheadMagic Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $8203465	All pre draft QB's have flaws, its the responsibility of the FO to weed thru those and decide which one fits our new system. I would really like to see Geno pull away as the #1 QB thru the process of the next couple of months. I just want us to pick a QB at #1 and roll with them Biggest criticism of Geno is mental toughness, i.e. ability to win coming from behind. But how much of that is on the WV coaching staff? A lot of questions about the QB's will be answered in the next couple of months.
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ChiefMojo Happy, Happy, Happy!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10004935	Basically I look at it this way with his three worst games. Two of those three came in bad weather and it wasn't like he was horrible in those two. At Tech he was fighting a HORRIBLE wind and of course in the bowl game it was really cold and snowy. The only game that outside elements weren't a issue was the Kansas State game. He just pure and simple did not perform well against the Cats but then again KSU was no push-over as we all know. Outside of those three games he performed very well.
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