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keg in kc · 12:12 PM

Don't believe there's a dedicated thread, and since they're starting to release information now, I figure it's time for one.

keg in kc · 10-27-2011, 10:35 AM

I'm going to finish kotor sometime in the next week or so, and then going to install kotor 2 and the tslrcm restoration mod. It'll be the first time I've played it since it was released.

allen_kcCard · 10-28-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Should donate $1500 to me so I can build a new one and dump this 2002 Dell.

If I had $1500 to burn like that, I'd already have a new rig and not have $1500 to burn any longer.

allen_kcCard · 10-28-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater58

Im doing the same for my 8 year old, he knows he's getting it tho. Im also beta testing so he's seen it and cant wait to play with Dad

good times ahead

Since I probably won't be able to get a good computer paid for by Christmas with needing to do the actual Christmas shopping as well, I am thinking we will probably just get one copy that is my son's and play the crap out of my own character on his account as well, and then shoot for a new rig and a second copy when we recover from the Christmas spending.

My Bday is Jan 20th, so I have all sorts of excuses to get the ball rolling.

Barret · 11-03-2011, 03:23 PM

Hey an update for everyone. I know I joined in on the Right fifty three guild but we might need more people. There is a Guild Phase 3 incoming beta release. Let me copy and paste....

Phase 3: Deployment will see any guild that meets the pre-designated criteria be transferred into the game for launch. Before we begin this process, though, we want to give all of you who are in guilds the opportunity to make sure your guild meets the following requirement for transfer:

Four members of the guild must have pre-ordered the game and redeemed their Pre-Order Code at the Code Redemption Center.

I got this information from here:

http://darthhater.com/category/swtor-news

Pants · 11-03-2011, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barret

Hey an update for everyone. I know I joined in on the Right fifty three guild but we might need more people. There is a Guild Phase 3 incoming beta release. Let me copy and paste....

Phase 3: Deployment will see any guild that meets the pre-designated criteria be transferred into the game for launch. Before we begin this process, though, we want to give all of you who are in guilds the opportunity to make sure your guild meets the following requirement for transfer:

Four members of the guild must have pre-ordered the game and redeemed their Pre-Order Code at the Code Redemption Center.

I got this information from here:

http://darthhater.com/category/swtor-news

OK, don't we have 4 at this point?

Huffmeister · 11-03-2011, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barret

Hey an update for everyone. I know I joined in on the Right fifty three guild but we might need more people. There is a Guild Phase 3 incoming beta release. Let me copy and paste....

Phase 3: Deployment will see any guild that meets the pre-designated criteria be transferred into the game for launch. Before we begin this process, though, we want to give all of you who are in guilds the opportunity to make sure your guild meets the following requirement for transfer:

Four members of the guild must have pre-ordered the game and redeemed their Pre-Order Code at the Code Redemption Center.

I got this information from here:

http://darthhater.com/category/swtor-news

I just checked the guild page and it says that four or more members have pre-ordered and that we are ready for deployment. So I think we're good to go. Thanks for the heads-up, though. I wasn't sure what the actual pre-reqs were going to be.

Also, just an FYI, the guild has its own public and private forums. But I think we should still keep most of the chatter here. That might entice others here to come join the fun

Nightfyre · 11-04-2011, 12:02 AM

I have applied bitches!

allen_kcCard · 11-07-2011, 11:10 AM

For those of you that have gotten to test it, how does the game "feel" in comparison to WoW, if you played that.

So much of the stuff that I have seen just looks like WoW with blasters and lightsabers, from the talent trees, to PvP/PvE setups, etc. Looks like instances are called flashpoints, and I've seen talks of raid types of those as well.

Not saying that it is a good or a bad thing, I am just hoping I can avoid getting into the trap of 2-3 hour 40 man instance raids where I have to deal with the wife aggro for a week just to make a run in MC or whatever the raid of the night is.

keg in kc · 11-07-2011, 12:51 PM

You'll get a lot of different answers to that one. It's pretty common to hear people say it basically is WoW with blasters and lightsabers, but it feels a lot more like an actual RPG to me than it does WoW. Maybe it's just the cutscenes and the dialogue wheel, but when I've played, it's felt like it's part KOTOR, part Dragon Age 2 and part Mass Effect 2. The talent trees are very similar, but outside of that combat is pretty different. There's no autoattack, to start, so you're constantly doing something. There's a ton of combat skills, as well, and when you fight (with your companion, if we're talking solo play here) you're usually fighting groups of 3-5 enemies. The regeneration system is pretty unique, too, which is something I think a lot of beta players don't even realize, in that you rengerate faster the more power/energy/ammo you have, so instead of burning all your pool and waiting for it to regen, the focus for better players will be utilizing skills in such a way that you're always in a sweet spot, with fastest regeneration, rather than in other games as, say a healer, where you're just spamming heals, and counting on either potions or other players to give you more power when you run low or run out.

I did not group at all in the time I played, primarily because it was limited, but also because I wanted to enjoy the group content fresh with my friends later, so I can't really comment on that stuff. Mostly I hear that people love the flashpoints. The operation hasn't been on general test yet, so I haven't seen very much leaked information about that.

I think the best way I can describe it is to say that it's very traditional MMO gameplay with some innovation in the areas for which BioWare is most well-known. The companions are pretty fantastic (not just pets), the dialogue and cutscenes make it feel like an actual RPG instead of just a grind-fest (this is not a negative, fwiw, that's part of the reason I've played them, the grind...) the way MMO's have been previously. I would say it's basically taking the best elements out of a number of traditional MMOs, making them all a little better, and handing out an extremely polished, and for me extremely enjoyable end product.

It does not, however, reinvent the wheel...

Silock · 11-07-2011, 12:53 PM

What is the WoW-equivalent of a flashpoint? I'm not sure I really understand that terminology.

Pants · 11-07-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

What is the WoW-equivalent of a flashpoint? I'm not sure I really understand that terminology.

Flashpoint = Dungeon = Instance. I think.

keg in kc · 11-07-2011, 12:56 PM

Instance. Although in TOR they're 4-man rather than 6. There's I think 15 of them total, starting around level 10.

Operations are raids, and they can be run 8-man or 16.

Everything has a variety of difficulty levels. They had normal and hard versions when I played (solo story instances could be tuned this way as well in the last build I played), there's rumors of a third difficulty level at some point as well as level 50 heroic versions for all the flashpoints.

Huffmeister · 11-07-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think the best way I can describe it is to say that it's very traditional MMO gameplay with some innovation in the areas for which BioWare is most well-known. The companions are pretty fantastic (not just pets), the dialogue and cutscenes make it feel like an actual RPG instead of just a grind-fest (this is not a negative, fwiw, that's part of the reason I've played them, the grind...) the way MMO's have been previously. I would say it's basically taking the best elements out of a number of traditional MMOs, making them all a little better, and handing out an extremely polished, and for me extremely enjoyable end product.

It does not, however, reinvent the wheel...

That pretty much sums it up. I can't speak much to raiding, because I actually enjoy grinding more than raiding and end-game content. Once I hit level cap, I'm more interested in running 5-man pug instances or starting a new character than I am in joining a raid team. I think it's mostly because I'm a casual player that can't commit to playing on a schedule.

The story and cutscene interactions are what I enjoyed the most. I can't wait to dive in again and really get immersed in the story. To the point where I look forward to "what happens next" rather than just getting to the next level.

I grouped a bit for some lowbie quests (about level 4-5). It was decent, but there are no chat bubbles which made it kind of hard to communicate, especially because the chat window isn't in a corner that I'm used to.

All in all, I'm counting the days until 12-20. I've tried to get back into WoW, but I usually end up wanting to play something else within half an hour. I guess I just didn't realize how burnt out I was on WoW.

allen_kcCard · 11-07-2011, 02:22 PM

The main thing I am looking forward to on this is playing it with my son. He is 9 now, and it will be his first time playing a real game that I have an interest in. He plays a lot of WII, and DS and iPod games, and I've played some of them with him, but they are typically always games that I'm only playing because they are ones he was interested in and I could "get past" something he was having trouble with.

An MMO like this is one where I think it will be a blast to jump into something and have him in tow or leading the way and we can go down in flames, or wonder how the heck we got through something together. I know he will Leroy Jenkins my ass here and there, but picturing his little shit eating smirk of "oops" afterwards is a lot of what I'm looking forward to.

keg in kc · 11-07-2011, 02:49 PM

I think it'll be good for that. There's stuff on every planet you can do together beyond just the class missions that take you there. heroic 2s and 2+s. You might need to find a couple of other friends to do the 4s or flashpoints.

I think it should be mostly okay for a 9-year old, too. There's some stuff he may not understand, and there's some dark, mature themes (mostly on the empire side, but also on the republic) but I don't remember much that was like 'oh god, they can't let kids see that".

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10-27-2011, 10:35 AM	#991
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I'm going to finish kotor sometime in the next week or so, and then going to install kotor 2 and the tslrcm restoration mod. It'll be the first time I've played it since it was released.
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11-03-2011, 03:23 PM	#994
Barret Still Lurking Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: East Texas Casino cash: $4123790	Hey an update for everyone. I know I joined in on the Right fifty three guild but we might need more people. There is a Guild Phase 3 incoming beta release. Let me copy and paste.... Phase 3: Deployment will see any guild that meets the pre-designated criteria be transferred into the game for launch. Before we begin this process, though, we want to give all of you who are in guilds the opportunity to make sure your guild meets the following requirement for transfer: Four members of the guild must have pre-ordered the game and redeemed their Pre-Order Code at the Code Redemption Center. I got this information from here: http://darthhater.com/category/swtor-news
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11-04-2011, 12:02 AM	#997
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11-07-2011, 11:10 AM	#998
allen_kcCard Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4483183	For those of you that have gotten to test it, how does the game "feel" in comparison to WoW, if you played that. So much of the stuff that I have seen just looks like WoW with blasters and lightsabers, from the talent trees, to PvP/PvE setups, etc. Looks like instances are called flashpoints, and I've seen talks of raid types of those as well. Not saying that it is a good or a bad thing, I am just hoping I can avoid getting into the trap of 2-3 hour 40 man instance raids where I have to deal with the wife aggro for a week just to make a run in MC or whatever the raid of the night is.
Posts: 2,765

11-07-2011, 12:51 PM	#999
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	You'll get a lot of different answers to that one. It's pretty common to hear people say it basically is WoW with blasters and lightsabers, but it feels a lot more like an actual RPG to me than it does WoW. Maybe it's just the cutscenes and the dialogue wheel, but when I've played, it's felt like it's part KOTOR, part Dragon Age 2 and part Mass Effect 2. The talent trees are very similar, but outside of that combat is pretty different. There's no autoattack, to start, so you're constantly doing something. There's a ton of combat skills, as well, and when you fight (with your companion, if we're talking solo play here) you're usually fighting groups of 3-5 enemies. The regeneration system is pretty unique, too, which is something I think a lot of beta players don't even realize, in that you rengerate faster the more power/energy/ammo you have, so instead of burning all your pool and waiting for it to regen, the focus for better players will be utilizing skills in such a way that you're always in a sweet spot, with fastest regeneration, rather than in other games as, say a healer, where you're just spamming heals, and counting on either potions or other players to give you more power when you run low or run out. I did not group at all in the time I played, primarily because it was limited, but also because I wanted to enjoy the group content fresh with my friends later, so I can't really comment on that stuff. Mostly I hear that people love the flashpoints. The operation hasn't been on general test yet, so I haven't seen very much leaked information about that. I think the best way I can describe it is to say that it's very traditional MMO gameplay with some innovation in the areas for which BioWare is most well-known. The companions are pretty fantastic (not just pets), the dialogue and cutscenes make it feel like an actual RPG instead of just a grind-fest (this is not a negative, fwiw, that's part of the reason I've played them, the grind...) the way MMO's have been previously. I would say it's basically taking the best elements out of a number of traditional MMOs, making them all a little better, and handing out an extremely polished, and for me extremely enjoyable end product. It does not, however, reinvent the wheel...
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11-07-2011, 12:53 PM	#1000
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11-07-2011, 12:56 PM	#1002
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Instance. Although in TOR they're 4-man rather than 6. There's I think 15 of them total, starting around level 10. Operations are raids, and they can be run 8-man or 16. Everything has a variety of difficulty levels. They had normal and hard versions when I played (solo story instances could be tuned this way as well in the last build I played), there's rumors of a third difficulty level at some point as well as level 50 heroic versions for all the flashpoints.
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11-07-2011, 02:22 PM	#1004
allen_kcCard Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4483183	The main thing I am looking forward to on this is playing it with my son. He is 9 now, and it will be his first time playing a real game that I have an interest in. He plays a lot of WII, and DS and iPod games, and I've played some of them with him, but they are typically always games that I'm only playing because they are ones he was interested in and I could "get past" something he was having trouble with. An MMO like this is one where I think it will be a blast to jump into something and have him in tow or leading the way and we can go down in flames, or wonder how the heck we got through something together. I know he will Leroy Jenkins my ass here and there, but picturing his little shit eating smirk of "oops" afterwards is a lot of what I'm looking forward to.
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11-07-2011, 02:49 PM	#1005
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I think it'll be good for that. There's stuff on every planet you can do together beyond just the class missions that take you there. heroic 2s and 2+s. You might need to find a couple of other friends to do the 4s or flashpoints. I think it should be mostly okay for a 9-year old, too. There's some stuff he may not understand, and there's some dark, mature themes (mostly on the empire side, but also on the republic) but I don't remember much that was like 'oh god, they can't let kids see that".
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