Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

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[Mav]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

First of all, if you're calling yourself a 9ers fans, take that stupid looking dog off your avatar. LOL.

Seriously though, there is a 0.00% pct chance we start the season 0-3.

No on the avatar.

And sorry. Facing three very good qbs to start the season, and really to be honest, there isn't a gimmie in the first 5 games of the season.

VS GB
@Seattle
VS Indy
@STL
VS HOU

Where is the gimmie? Every single one of those teams poses a threat.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

No on the avatar.

And sorry. Facing three very good qbs to start the season, and really to be honest, there isn't a gimmie in the first 5 games of the season.

VS GB
@Seattle
VS Indy
@STL
VS HOU

I didn't say there were any gimmes. I just said we're not starting 0-3.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

I didn't say there were any gimmes. I just said we're not starting 0-3.

Well, obviously I hope not.

the schedule makers sure did us no favors though.

I could just be pissy. I live in Packer country with my packer loving wife, with her packer loving parents coming to watch the game on sunday.

[Sandy Vagina]

yeah, Matt Ryan's been losing lots of playoff games... 1 win out of 5.. and he has lots of talent around him, plus has had coaching consistency around him in the developing years.

Matt Stafford's been losing big time against teams with a winning record... 1 win in 24 games?

these new year backyard-ballers have been exciting, yet not flawless... They have much to prove, but for the most part, have excellent structure around them to succeed further.

Alex had shit and a wild carousel around him. Few quarterbacks had so many obstacles around them, and none of them to my knowledge have been trending up in their later years as Smith has. He is just a product of people's preconceived notions over his distant years. Years of brainwashed people, thanks to the ESPN/Jamie Duke morons that fail to think in depth about what makes QBs successful.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

yeah, Matt Ryan's been losing lots of playoff games... 1 win out of 5.. and he has lots of talent around him, plus has had coaching consistency around him in the developing years.

Matt Stafford's been losing big time against teams with a winning record... 1 win in 24 games?

these new year backyard-ballers have been exciting, yet not flawless... They have much to prove, but for the most part, have excellent structure around them to succeed further.

Alex had shit and a wild carousel around him. Few quarterbacks had so many obstacles around them, and none of them to my knowledge have been trending up in their later years as Smith has. He is just a product of people's preconceived notions over his distant years. Years of brainwashed people, thanks to the ESPN/Jamie Duke morons that fail to think in depth about what makes QBs successful.

Ironically enough, those same people that say alex smith is shit on this board, but want Geno Smith readily admit that his chances of surviving in a jets uniform is almost NONE.

Funny how that works. And on the other hand, the same guys who dislike smith, and love Kaep, fail to realize just how lucky Kaep is that he landed where he did.

Funny, huh? That probably is the biggest reason that I do like Alex Smith. I have no idea how he made it out of that situation to succeed at all, much less garner enough attention to become another teams franchise qb.

Jamarcus Russell didn't, David Carr didn't, Ryan Leaf didn't, Joey Harrington didn't

It is damn impressive considering that especially with Jamarcus and Leaf, two guys who were considered such cant miss prospects because of their physical abilities crashed and burned so hard. Yet, Alex still stands.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

That probably is the biggest reason that I do like Alex Smith. I have no idea how he made it out of that situation to succeed at all

It is damn impressive

Alex still stands.

Yes, it's inspirational, from a football perspective.

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

Who is dishonest?

Crabtree 2010 741 yards 6 tds
2011 874 yards 4 tds
2012 8 game split 440 yards 3 tds
So 16= 880 yards and 6 TDs.

At first blush, it really looks like you're correct. However, when you account for the injured hand (in which every receiver suffered on yards) it paints a different picture.

6 games 383 yards 3 tds = 16 games 1021 yards and 8tds.

Now, the only argument you can really make here is that I can't take those games out...go ahead...tell me how Alex's throwing hand injury had no impact on the 9ers ability to pass in those games. I'm all ears.

This is a perfect example of why stats are deceptive.

Instead of using stats, try to remember how everyone was saying how much better Crabtree was looking before Alex had his concussion.

You're pathetic.

[Snapplez]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Alex had shit and a wild carousel around him. Few quarterbacks had so many obstacles around them, and none of them to my knowledge have been trending up in their later years as Smith has.

This trending up shit is such a damn copout. It amazes me you fail to see the circumstances of why the 49ers became what they are today. They were a ridiculously talented team, with a fantastic head coach, and get this, the more they took the ball out of Alex Smith's hands the better the team became. They trended up simply because Harbaugh knew that Smith wasn't ever gonna cut it, and took the ball away from him.

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

So full of shit, kid... Suck on these numbers a bit.

This is old and recycled discussion. Now, show us how VD's production was with Smith and then Kaep. Go ahead.


week 1-9 = 26 rec on 37 targets / 380 yds / 4 TDs -------- ( with Alex )

week 9-16 = 16 rec on 25 targets / 172 yds / 1 TD -------- ( with Kaep )

So, big whoopity doo, kid. Alex liked throwing the ball to VD and others.. as well as Crabtree, which Alex completed approx. 40 passes to prior to the concussion. That's 40 at about the mid-point to the season. Does 40 sound terrible in a run-based offense? Kaep only completed about 50 to him.



Let all this go and enjoy the 49ers journey. Let Alex Smiff go, once and for all. Alex has controlled and dominated your pathetic life all of those 8 years... and now, you are allowing him to dominate you even though you are free of him. Can you not see this twisted and sick obsession is poisoning your soul?

What the **** does VD's production have to do with Crabs production compared to Kaep and Smith? Are you slow?

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

In 2006, (Smith's 2nd season), Alex had a 56.85 comp % when throwing 21+ yards in Norv's system.

In 2005, (Schaub's 2nd season), Matt had a 50% comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2002, (Brees' 2nd season), Drew had a 59.25 comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2009, (Flacco's 2nd season), Joe had a 60.1 comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2009, (Ryan's 2nd season), Matt had a 58.7 comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2009, (Flacco's 2nd season), Joe had a 60.1 comp % when throwing 21+ yards


I mean, we are not talking huge differences here. You need to at least factor in that Alex had Kwame Harris at OT (possibly the worst OT in pass protecting history), and a bottom half pass protecting OL on the whole.

Also keep in mind, Alex's decent 2nd year was also better than that of HOF Troy Aikman's 2nd year... and Troy had a MUCH better supporting cast around him.

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you post this garbage?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

What the **** does VD's production have to do with Crabs production compared to Kaep and Smith?

Can you really not answer this for yourself? Both QBs threw the same number of passes. One QB passed the ball more to his TE... which means less passes to the WR. The other QB passed the ball more to his WR... which means less passes to his TE.

Yeah dude... someone here is slow. Seems pretty clear that person is you.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you post this garbage?

Is that all you got? Can't discuss the point, so all you can do is helplessly flail at the poster? Oh, you will fit in well here.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

What the **** does VD's production have to do with Crabs production compared to Kaep and Smith? Are you slow?

Your emoticons don't take away from the fact that this is a stupid post.

Vernon davis when Kaep took over was pretty much obsolete from the offense. That is the point that he was making.

Alex Smith used everyone, Kaep threw almost half of his passes to one guy.

Is that, that difficult for you to comprehend?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Snapplez

This trending up shit is such a damn copout. It amazes me you fail to see the circumstances of why the 49ers became what they are today. They were a ridiculously talented team, with a fantastic head coach, and get this, the more they took the ball out of Alex Smith's hands the better the team became. They trended up simply because Harbaugh knew that Smith wasn't ever gonna cut it, and took the ball away from him.

So they paid him a top 3 salary on the team for two years just to "take the ball away from him?" Harbaugh was quoted multiple times in sucking Alex off just to keep him in SF... all to keep the ball out of his hands? and in most of the games where they actually needed Alex`to produce a game winning drive... he did.

So tell me again how they kept the ball out of his hands? Didn't he pass the ball just as frequently as Kaep did?

Your perspective has large fails in it.

[Snapplez]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

So they paid him a top 3 salary on the team for two years just to "take the ball away from him?" Harbaugh was quoted multiple times in sucking Alex off just to keep him in SF... all to keep the ball out of his hands? and in most of the games where they actually needed Alex`to produce a game winning drive... he did.

So tell me again how they kept the ball out of his hands? Didn't he pass the ball just as frequently as Kaep did?

Your perspective has large fails in it.

Actions on the field speak much louder than media quotes. The 49ers had close to the fewest pass attempts in the league, that's absolutely taking the ball away from the super duper awesome franchise QB. And I'm sure you remember, Harbaugh talked up A.J. Jenkins before he shipped him outta town. Media relations don't mean a damn thing.