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Old 11-23-2004, 11:36 AM  
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The Pussification of the Chiefs...

Vermeil's job is done. He's finally removed all semblance of sack from this team.

I just got done watching Gonzo on ESPN, bitching about contact that wasn't called. Of course it's the refs fault, exactly like DV taught you. I was sick of watching Vermeil pass blame 8 weeks ago, now I have to watch our players do it too. At what point does this team stop passing the buck and start taking responsibility? When will Vermeil stop bitching about the roster limits, that the rest of the NFL's coaches have learned to live with? When will he call out a player for a stupid personal foul, instead of justifying it by saying you get away with it half the time? When will the guys that aren't getting the job done get benched instead of hugged? When do we lose a game because we under-performed, instead of the other team outplaying us? When is anyone accountable for failure in the Chiefs organization? The only guys that get blasted are the kicker, the punter, and a guy that's never been given a real chance to prove himself and silence his critics.

This team has no attitude and IMO it's direct reflection of our eunuch head coach. Our D doesn't know how to hit, but they know how to get slapped around and made fools of. Our O won't fight for a reception, but will beg for a flag on every incompletion. They look like a bunch pussies right now, and instead of getting mad, they're rolling over.

Just once I'd like to see some Parcells type disgust directed at a poor performance, instead of a tear, a hug, and a pat on the ass.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:26 PM   #31
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yeah if they did this all at once... players on Chiefs are too complacent... if they were held accountable... then only a few would get cut and the rest would have got their shit together.
Oh...don't get me wrong, I agree with the concept of accountability...I just think three fourths of the _efense has no shit to get together.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:27 PM   #32
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I like DV, but I'll give a few examples of what the Patriots do:
Gawd, I'm getting tired of everything being compared to "what the Patriots do" by this guy.
Can't you get a consultants job somewhere?
Maybe you should call JAWS and give him your Blueprint.

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3. Earthwind Moreland, a practice squad player who was forced into the starting lineup due to multiple injuries to our CBs, was burnt by you guys for two TDs (the only TDs we allowed). According to today's Boston Herald, even though nobody has any idea who will be manning one CB spot this upcoming Sunday:

"The sticker bearing Moreland's name and number above his locker was ripped off by the time the media entered the room. It was the only sticker removed."
OK, STFW? There are more warm bodies on the street in NE than KC. I saw that guy crouched over after he got hammered. He's probably in the hospital. He looked like a stick-figured 4A high schooler in need of steriods. Eventually, your team will fall off the high wire act you got going.


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Old 11-23-2004, 12:32 PM   #33
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Gawd, I'm getting tired of everything being compared to "what the Patriots do" by this guy.
Can't you get a consultants job somewhere?
Maybe you should call JAWS and give him your Blueprint.



OK, STFW? There are more warm bodies on the street in NE than KC. I saw that guy crouched over after he got hammered. He's probably in the hospital. He looked like a stick-figured 4A high schooler in need of steriods. Eventually, your team will fall off the high wire act you got going.


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Old 11-23-2004, 12:40 PM   #34
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Gawd, I'm getting tired of everything being compared to "what the Patriots do" by this guy.
Can't you get a consultants job somewhere?
Maybe you should call JAWS and give him your Blueprint.



OK, STFW? There are more warm bodies on the street in NE than KC. I saw that guy crouched over after he got hammered. He's probably in the hospital. He looked like a stick-figured 4A high schooler in need of steriods. Eventually, your team will fall off the high wire act you got going.


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Old 11-23-2004, 12:42 PM   #35
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There is zero accountability with the Chiefs.

None. You screw up, the ass-kissing, whining head coach will make up some lame excuse for it.

To paraphrase.."If we went out and got another player, could he handle being 2-4 like Eric Hicks?"

I don't want players on this team that can handle being 2-4. I don't want players on this team that talk trash when they are losing and then gets immediately burnt.

Vermeil is one contradiction after another. He fires the DC after saying he's bringing him back but offers the new DC no help.

If you wanted to keep Robinson then that says that you need new players right?

To people with common sense it did.

Vermeil's legacy is overrated. He can take teams to the SB 3-4 years into his "program" because he has a lot of factors in his favor. 1) A last place schedule, 2) 1 out of 4 years you're bound to get lucky.

Look at his career record. If Vermeil was an asshole coach then he wouldn't get 1/5th of the praise he gets.

Yeah, he knows how to treat people. He knows how to find that stud offensive player, but the guy has NO clue how to run, pick players, or coach up a defense.

If he stays this year, he needs to stay out of EVERY defensive free agent and draft meeting. Every player that he's wanted has been a complete bust. Barber, Sims, Mitchell, Holliday.

The Chiefs also treat their draft picks as expendable. How many teams do you know that cut their 2nd round pick just 2 seasons after you drafted them?

Lamar Hunt needs to turn the team over to his kids because maybe they will have enough balls to hold the scouting department accountable for the god awful draft picks that this team has made. They are by far the worst drafting team in the NFL.

My rant is over. From the top this organization is run like shit. The end result reflects that.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:42 PM   #36
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I hope it's the Broncos * (* Violated the salary cap during their championship seasons), because we can beat those guys. #7 owned the Pats 16-0 lifetime....and we can beat them. Since then...it's about .500.
Good luck with that. You'll need to get through the wild card round again before you can get to the divisional round, assuming things hold up (and considering the Pats and Steelers schedules for the rest of the season (i.e. soft and softer), it's hard to see either of them giving up the strangleholds they have on the bye week).
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:42 PM   #37
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in the history of ESPN, they have never had clips of players of the losing team crying about officiating...those dirty bastages
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:43 PM   #38
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Gawd, I'm getting tired of everything being compared to "what the Patriots do" by this guy.
Can't you get a consultants job somewhere?
Maybe you should call JAWS and give him your Blueprint.



OK, STFW? There are more warm bodies on the street in NE than KC. I saw that guy crouched over after he got hammered. He's probably in the hospital. He looked like a stick-figured 4A high schooler in need of steriods. Eventually, your team will fall off the high wire act you got going.


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Obviously the Patriots are doing something right. 2 Super Bowls in 3 years and a 9-1 record this year using offensive guys on defense and vice versa?

If this was the Chiefs, you would love the attention.

But sadly, the Chiefs aren't smart enough to pull off 1/100th of what the Pats do.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:44 PM   #39
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Vermeil's job is done. He's finally removed all semblance of sack from this team.

I just got done watching Gonzo on ESPN, bitching about contact that wasn't called. Of course it's the refs fault, exactly like DV taught you. I was sick of watching Vermeil pass blame 8 weeks ago, now I have to watch our players do it too. At what point does this team stop passing the buck and start taking responsibility? When will Vermeil stop bitching about the roster limits, that the rest of the NFL's coaches have learned to live with? When will he call out a player for a stupid personal foul, instead of justifying it by saying you get away with it half the time? When will the guys that aren't getting the job done get benched instead of hugged? When do we lose a game because we under-performed, instead of the other team outplaying us? When is anyone accountable for failure in the Chiefs organization? The only guys that get blasted are the kicker, the punter, and a guy that's never been given a real chance to prove himself and silence his critics.

This team has no attitude and IMO it's direct reflection of our eunuch head coach. Our D doesn't know how to hit, but they know how to get slapped around and made fools of. Our O won't fight for a reception, but will beg for a flag on every incompletion. They look like a bunch pussies right now, and instead of getting mad, they're rolling over.

Just once I'd like to see some Parcells type disgust directed at a poor performance, instead of a tear, a hug, and a pat on the ass.

100% agree....

Tampons for everyone of these pussies.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:45 PM   #40
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I don't want players on this team that can handle being 2-4.
I think you have them...I think this team never recovered from the 1-3 start and has spiraled out of control at this point.

This team cant handle the adversity and it's showing.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:46 PM   #41
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Obviously the Patriots are doing something right. 2 Super Bowls in 3 years and a 9-1 record this year using offensive guys on defense and vice versa?

If this was the Chiefs, you would love the attention.

But sadly, the Chiefs aren't smart enough to pull off 1/100th of what the Pats do.
You mean hit the lottery with a 6th round pick? I defy anyone to try to convince me that with Drew Bledsoe this team wins a single SB championship.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:49 PM   #42
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in the history of ESPN, they have never had clips of players of the losing team crying about officiating...those dirty bastages
Great point. Since other teams have looked like pusses in the past, it's OK for this team to do it.
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You mean hit the lottery with a 6th round pick? I defy anyone to try to convince me that with Drew Bledsoe this team wins a single SB championship.
Not everyone is going to win the jackpot, but we can't even win a free ticket.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:52 PM   #44
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You mean hit the lottery with a 6th round pick? I defy anyone to try to convince me that with Drew Bledsoe this team wins a single SB championship.
How many 6th round picks have the Chiefs hit the lottery with.

Obviously, Brady wouldn't come in and do this for any team. They have the perfect system for his talents and have coached him to the player he is.

I'm talking about winning with injuries, putting offensive players on defense and not having a huge fallout. Getting guys like Mike Vrabel, Rodney Harrison, Tyrone Poole and having them make a huge defensive impact.

Look at their offensive line, there's not one superstar, but they protect just as well as any line in the league.

Their receivers get the job done despite not being superstars.. Givens was a 6th rounder, Branch a 2nd rounder, Troy Brown has been around forever, David Patten was cast off 3 other teams.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:54 PM   #45
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Good luck with that. You'll need to get through the wild card round again before you can get to the divisional round, assuming things hold up (and considering the Pats and Steelers schedules for the rest of the season (i.e. soft and softer), it's hard to see either of them giving up the strangleholds they have on the bye week).
Like I said...if we get the chance...I think we'll match up well with you.
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