So did Welbourn cost us a 3rd or a 4th in this years draft....

Coogs · 01-04-2005, 06:46 PM

....to go along with the draft pick we gave up for him last season?

Traded Draft Picks...

Fourth Round

Philadelphia from Kansas City (OG John Welbourn/ could escalate to #3 if Welbourn plays 50% of Chiefs' snaps)

Demonpenz · 01-04-2005, 06:46 PM

he was worth it I tell you that much. Best tackle we ever had

Coogs · 01-04-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

he was worth it I tell you that much. Best tackle we ever had

Demonpenz is an Eagles fan? Who knew?

suds79 · 01-04-2005, 07:07 PM

Yeah you gotta love that trade.

Chris Bober & Jordan Black played it better.

**Saulbadguy** · 01-04-2005, 07:17 PM

He did not play 50% IIRC.

beavis · 01-04-2005, 08:00 PM

I think most people thought it was a good trade at the time.

I'm sure there will be a ton crawling out of the woodwork now saying how they thought it was stupid.

**Bowser** · 01-04-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

He did not play 50% IIRC.

Therefore, he cost us a 5th rounder.

Coogs · 01-04-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Therefore, he cost us a 5th rounder.

That was a 5th last year, AND, it is also a 4th this year that could escalate to a 3rd if he played 50% of the snaps. Not sure how the injury factors in, but I'm pretty sure he was in on more than 50% when healthy.

Miles · 01-04-2005, 10:14 PM

I read last week on PFW that it would come down to the last game depending on the number of snaps against SD. Based on that its not looking good for the 3rd rounder.

Havent heard anything for sure though.

PastorMikH · 01-04-2005, 10:50 PM

Pound for pound, play for play, he didn't cost us as much as John Tait cost the Bears.

Ultra Peanut · 01-04-2005, 10:54 PM

It was a good trade... he's just not a very good player, is all.

Don't we have a decent stockpile of mid-round picks?

KevB · 01-05-2005, 12:12 AM

He wasn't a world-beater, but he wasn't terrible. Clearly, he was trying to adjust to a new position and started to deal with injury. He's more productive than 90% of our other 3rd round picks in the CP era.

**Rausch** · 01-05-2005, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by beavis

I think most people thought it was a good trade at the time.

I'm sure there will be a ton crawling out of the woodwork now saying how they thought it was stupid.

If Shields retires It'll become a pretty good trade real quick...

Valiant · 01-05-2005, 12:15 AM

I thought it was a great trade.. him or 16mill a year for a player like tait??

It was a great pickup at the time...

Logical · 01-05-2005, 12:31 AM

We get one good mid round player about every three years, because Carl is so putrid drafting. I would still say the trade was worth it. He unfortunately did not play very well, no where near as good as Tait.

Before someone says something about Tait's cost let me remind everyone that we could have franchise tagged him as a ROT for about 6.5 million with no signing bonus. We left about 6 million unused in cap space this year.

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beavis Free Born Man of the USA Join Date: May 2003 Casino cash: $9954900	I think most people thought it was a good trade at the time. I'm sure there will be a ton crawling out of the woodwork now saying how they thought it was stupid.
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Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $1702400	I read last week on PFW that it would come down to the last game depending on the number of snaps against SD. Based on that its not looking good for the 3rd rounder. Havent heard anything for sure though.
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PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks Casino cash: $9955087	Pound for pound, play for play, he didn't cost us as much as John Tait cost the Bears. __________________
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Ultra Peanut v^V^v^V^v^V^ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Holland* Casino cash: $10005177	It was a good trade... he's just not a very good player, is all. Don't we have a decent stockpile of mid-round picks? __________________
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KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	He wasn't a world-beater, but he wasn't terrible. Clearly, he was trying to adjust to a new position and started to deal with injury. He's more productive than 90% of our other 3rd round picks in the CP era.
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01-05-2005, 12:15 AM	#14
Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6452380	I thought it was a great trade.. him or 16mill a year for a player like tait?? It was a great pickup at the time...
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01-05-2005, 12:31 AM	#15
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	We get one good mid round player about every three years, because Carl is so putrid drafting. I would still say the trade was worth it. He unfortunately did not play very well, no where near as good as Tait. Before someone says something about Tait's cost let me remind everyone that we could have franchise tagged him as a ROT for about 6.5 million with no signing bonus. We left about 6 million unused in cap space this year.
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