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Old 05-05-2014, 10:25 AM  
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:10 PM   #91
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you don't know whether Smith is asking big or not
What we know is that Smith isn't involved at all, he's leaving it up to his agent. Who just happens to be Tom Condon. And I think we all understand what his history is when it comes to 'asking big or not'. Now maybe this one isn't playing out that way, anything's possible. But the fact the thing has stalled might indicate otherwise.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:10 PM   #92
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Yes, we can wait until next year but that doesn't change anything about what i said. It just delays it a year.
It changes everything you just said. We dont HAVE to sign him this year.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:13 PM   #93
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:15 PM   #94
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It changes everything you just said. We dont HAVE to sign him this year.
it only changes something if Alex Smith has a bad year

either way we have problems

Alex Smith looks bad and the Chiefs look like shit for trading for him

or

Alex Smith looks good and he has the Chief by the nutsack in negotiations


franchise tag $ for QBs is 16 million per this year
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:15 PM   #95
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Since this is the Chiefs, watch us not sign him, then he goes out and plays like the playoff game all next season.

I think they'll get something done, but I don't think people give Dorsey and Reid enough credit. Neither one of them are Pioli. They both are from organizations that would let guys walk. I don't believe they'll treat him like Pioli did Cassel.
They're already not treating him like Cassel. They didn't immediately extend him before he played one regular season snap with the team.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:17 PM   #96
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it only changes something if Alex Smith has a bad year

either way we have problems

Alex Smith looks bad and the Chiefs look like shit for trading for him

or

Alex Smith looks good and he has the Chief by the nutsack in negotiations


franchise tag $ for QBs is 16 million per this year
I either of your scenarios...

We have the leverage RIGHT NOW.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:18 PM   #97
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I either of your scenarios...

We have the leverage RIGHT NOW.
not really

we only have leverage if Smith think he is going to shit the bed next year
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:23 PM   #98
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Dorsey sure likes to bitch about agent-related things to Rapoport a lot...
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:23 PM   #99
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Those are some of the quarterbacks Tom Condon represents.

Basically the list of the highest paid nfl quarterbacks in the nfl.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:26 PM   #100
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Tony Romo
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Jay Cutler

Those are some of the quarterbacks Tom Condon represents.

Basically the list of the highest paid nfl quarterbacks in the nfl.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:26 PM   #101
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@TerezPaylor - it feels like the chiefs leaked this intentionally so a QB needy team will move up and the chiefs can collect extra picks
That doesn't make sense.
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it only changes something if Alex Smith has a bad year

either way we have problems

Alex Smith looks bad and the Chiefs look like shit for trading for him

or

Alex Smith looks good and he has the Chief by the nutsack in negotiations


franchise tag $ for QBs is 16 million per this year
still better than paying him more than that per year on average in a new deal.

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not really

we only have leverage if Smith think he is going to shit the bed next year
You should check out our schedule
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:27 PM   #102
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Before the era of the $100 million QB, Trent Green got paid pretty handsomely thanks to Condon.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:31 PM   #103
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You should check out our schedule
if Smith is asking for huge money then we might as well wait.

I've been saying just wait since we first traded for him.


but next year is crunch time
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:31 PM   #104
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It could be a smokescreen.

However, it would be WAY more Chiefs-like to go into the draft without an Alex Smith extension being done, see no QB they want fall down to them, and pass - thus turning all the leverage back over to Smith.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:32 PM   #105
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It could be a smokescreen.

However, it would be WAY more Chiefs-like to go into the draft without an Alex Smith extension being done, see no QB they want fall down to them, and pass - thus turning all the leverage back over to Smith.
this has the potential to go very,very badly
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