Chiefs New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft - Page 17

FringeNC · 05:47 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...inglePage=true

The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete.

Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott ***** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job.

That includes preparation for the NFL draft.

The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team.

"We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that."

It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced.

Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson.

Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise.

"Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay.

"History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement."

Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback.

Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL.

"What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1."

By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position.

Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season.

"Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization."

Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it?

Not necessarily.

Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection.

"My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility."

It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs.

Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones.

One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.

"Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that."

Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay.

That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes.

"It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right."

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**ChiefGator** · 01-16-2013, 07:59 AM

I know it has been said before, but BPA really means BPA with positional weighting. That's why when a BPA board is created, kickers and punters don't get drafted in the early rounds every year.

Duh..

King_Chief_Fan · 01-16-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Yes because of 30 years of not drafting a QBotf for thirty years has worked so well for us. I wouldn't be as up set if we draft Barkley or Wilson but stilll pissed off if we don't draft a QB with our first pick.

wow...I am surprised that the Chiefs didn't offer or at least interview you for the GM role.

crazycoffey · 01-16-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

wow...I am surprised that the Chiefs didn't offer or at least interview you for the GM role.

I like tattoo, but he's really starting to sound like reerun and his herm comments. same two sentances every thread multiple times.

King_Chief_Fan · 01-16-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

I like tattoo, but he's really starting to sound like reerun and his herm comments. same two sentances every thread multiple times.

I like the guy as well...

ChiefPassesALot · 01-16-2013, 08:45 AM

I will be surprised to see Andy take a qb

htismaqe · 01-16-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

For the love of christ he's not worth the 1st overall pick.

Geno Smith at #1 would be a Tyson Jackson type of reach.

Says the guy who wanted to draft Manti Te'o with the #1 pick.

Check your shoe, you stepped in it.

**RealSNR** · 01-16-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

For the love of christ he's not worth the 1st overall pick.

Geno Smith at #1 would be a Tyson Jackson type of reach.

HAY GUYZ TYLER WILSON SHOULD BE AROUND IN TEH 2ND ROUND LOL

HolyHat · 01-16-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

For the love of christ he's not worth the 1st overall pick.

Geno Smith at #1 would be a Tyson Jackson type of reach.

Way too many drugs at your disposal in CoMo

IAmABabySeal · 01-16-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

HAY GUYZ TYLER WILSON SHOULD BE AROUND IN TEH 2ND ROUND LOL

I think he goes pretty early actually. People always reach on a QB...there is quite a few teams that need one too. Zona/Buffalo the most outside of you guys being deadset on Geno at #1.

htismaqe · 01-16-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

I think he goes pretty early actually. People always reach on a QB...there is quite a few teams that need one too. Zona/Buffalo the most outside of you guys being deadset on Geno at #1.

If anybody should know what reaching looks like, it's definitely you.

ModSocks · 01-16-2013, 11:16 AM

It's funny.

All these Geno/QB haters are gonna be riding the cock after the combine. Once Mayock starts giving his opinion, and the interviews are done, and Gruden does his QB camp.....all the naysayers will look stupid.

ModSocks · 01-16-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

I think he goes pretty early actually. People always reach on a QB...there is quite a few teams that need one too. Zona/Buffalo the most outside of you guys being deadset on Geno at #1.

Just so we're clear: Your proposal to fix one of the most atrocious offenses in NFL history....led by historically bad QB play....is to Draft a LT and pick up the 5th-6th best QB prospect in the draft.

That's your recipe for success, right?

htismaqe · 01-16-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Just so we're clear: Your proposal to fix one of the most atrocious offenses in NFL history....led by historically bad QB play....is to Draft a LT and pick up the 5th-6th best QB prospect in the draft.

That's your recipe for success, right?

It's worked so many times before though!

**RealSNR** · 01-16-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's worked so many times before though!

Russell Wilson

**RealSNR** · 01-16-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

I think he goes pretty early actually. People always reach on a QB...there is quite a few teams that need one too. Zona/Buffalo the most outside of you guys being deadset on Geno at #1.

I was mocking him. CoMo posted a mock draft that had the Chiefs drafting Teo at #1 and then drafting Tyler Wilson in the 2nd round.

Oh, and if that doesn't make him enough of an idiot, he said we need to draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd.

01-15-2013, 05:17 PM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1846014	New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...inglePage=true The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete. Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott *** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job. That includes preparation for the NFL draft. The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team. "We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that." It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced. Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson. Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise. "Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay. "History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement." Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback. Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL. "What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1." By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position. Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season. "Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization." Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it? Not necessarily. Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection. "My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility." It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs. Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones. One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.** "Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that." Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay. That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes. "It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right." ——— Last edited by FringeNC; 01-15-2013 at 05:47 PM.. Reason: bold parts as requested for the pathologically lazy
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ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4324563	It's funny. All these Geno/QB haters are gonna be riding the cock after the combine. Once Mayock starts giving his opinion, and the interviews are done, and Gruden does his QB camp.....all the naysayers will look stupid.
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