Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 107

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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RunKC · 05-13-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and 8-8 is making a strong push...

guess what 8-8 isnt even playing "winning" football.

and if you trade 2 2nds for a win now qb you should be making noise come playoff time, no learning seasons...

You couldn't be more wrong.

Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year.

Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston.

Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year.

Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him.

It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new.

It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year.
Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.

King_Chief_Fan · 05-13-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Hell the **** yes Geno Smith at least he has potential for something better than we have had over the last 40 years.

are you saying that you would have picked at 1.1 Geno Smith?

O.city · 05-13-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You couldn't be more wrong.

Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year.

Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston.

Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year.

Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him.

It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new.

It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year.
Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.

All those other teams made those moves, because they thought they were close and said player was the one to put them over the edge.

A 2-14 team with the first pick in the draft probably shouldn't have made said move if they didn't think they were closer.

King_Chief_Fan · 05-13-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You couldn't be more wrong.

Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year.

Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston.

Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year.

Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him.

It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new.

It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year.
Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.

see, you are using way to much common sense here

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You couldn't be more wrong.

Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year.

Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston.

Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year.

Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him.

It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new.

It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year.
Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.

what did Indy do last ****ing year?
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:37 AM

Better than 8-8 that's for ****ing sure
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Rasputin · 05-13-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

are you saying that you would have picked at 1.1 Geno Smith?

Yes YES and YES I would have picked Geno Smith 1.1

I'd also keep scouting the next years draft class for another potential starting quarterback and maybe draft him for competition and create trade value. We have neglected drafting a top prospect for so many years it wouldn't hurt to go back to back with drafting top prospects.

Yes I think Geno Smith has potential to be really good so he would have been worth the pick. At the least not trade for Alex Smith and take him with our second round pick. Could have got him then.

RunKC · 05-13-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

All those other teams made those moves, because they thought they were close and said player was the one to put them over the edge.

A 2-14 team with the first pick in the draft probably shouldn't have made said move if they didn't think they were closer.

Making a strong push for the playoffs next year would be a success IMO.

Year 2 is when they really need to make the playoffs and win at least 1 playoff game.

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2013, 11:38 AM

@ Lil Mac trying to force feed Chiefs fans a steaming pile of 49er shit and having it spit back in his face.

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:38 AM

So w are going to go through ANOTHER "learning year" with our 29 year old qb
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keg in kc · 05-13-2013, 11:39 AM

Making excuses for Alex Smith in May. Glad to see we have such high expectations.

patteeu · 05-13-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

what did Indy do last ****ing year?
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Lost their only January game.

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Making a strong push for the playoffs next year would be a success IMO.

Year 2 is when they really need to make the playoffs and win at least 1 playoff game.

Again. 8-8 isn't making a "strong push" for the playoffs. Hell out isn't even winning football.

And after the learning year we only have one more year of Smith locked up... Then what?
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Lost their only January game.

Did they go 8-8?
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patteeu · 05-13-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Again. 8-8 isn't making a "strong push" for the playoffs. Hell out isn't even winning football.

And after the learning year we only have one more year of Smith locked up... Then what?
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Then you extend him.

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