KU **** OFFICIAL 2012 Kansas Football Repository Thread **** - Page 17

ArrowheadHawk · 09:53 AM

New Coach, New year, new thread.

Sat, Sept. 1 SDSU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 6:00p.m. CT Jayhawk IMG TV Network

Sat, Sept. 8 Rice at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS FSN at 2:30p.m. CT Fox Sports Net

Sat, Sept. 15 TCU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 11:00a.m. CT FX

Sat, Sept. 22 Kansas at No. Illinois
DeKalb, Illinois

Sat, Oct. 6 Kansas at Kansas State Bill Snyder Family Stadium
Manhattan, KS

Sat, Oct. 13 Okla. St. at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Oct. 20 Kansas at Oklahoma Oklahoma Memorial Stadium
Norman, OK

Sat, Oct. 27 Texas at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Nov. 3 Kansas at Baylor Floyd Casey Stadium
Waco, TX

Sat, Nov. 10 Kansas at TT Jones AT&T Stadium
Lubbock, TX

Sat, Nov. 17 Iowa State at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Dec. 1 Kansas at West Virginia
Morgantown, W.V.

**Saul Good** · 12-02-2011, 01:46 PM

Is anyone else hearing that Darrian Miller might be leaving, too? That would be KU's two top recruits from last year both leaving.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-02-2011, 01:54 PM

The only place I heard that was on a message board.

Pants · 12-02-2011, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Is anyone else hearing that Darrian Miller might be leaving, too? That would be KU's two top recruits from last year both leaving.

That would be bad, yes, but that's the price you have to pay for getting rid of a coach. When that coach got you 1 conference win in 2 years, it's a price you pay gladly.

**Lzen** · 12-02-2011, 02:03 PM

Friday, December 2, 2011
Keegan

Pat Ruel knows keys to winning

By Tom Keegan

Coaching searches provide an excuse to call guys about whom you’ve heard so many good things but never had a chance to visit with on the phone.

Golden Pat Ruel, lifelong assistant coach, qualifies as one such man. Ruel has coached football at eight different universities and five different NFL teams. He has spent the past seven seasons working for Pete Carroll at USC and with the Seattle Seahawks.

Ruel, 60, and working in his fifth decade as a football coach, had the courtesy to return my phone call Thursday when he had a long break between game-day meetings preparing for a night clash with the Philadelphia Eagles in Seattle.

Ruel’s longest career stop was in Lawrence where he worked for Glen Mason from 1988 through 1996 as offensive line coach and offensive coordinator. He thought he would replace Mason, but the job went to Terry Allen.

A number of Lawrence residents believe Ruel, an unconventional pick, deserves a serious look. So, Pat, are you interested?

“Am I interested? Yeah,” said Ruel, the Seahawks’ assistant offensive line coach. “But I also understand the dynamics. If it’s about splash, I’m not the right guy. If it’s about getting a guy who understands how to get it done, then I’m the guy.”

Ruel said he still has a special place for the university that employed his wife, Marti, as vice president of student affairs.

“Great environment, great place to live,” Ruel said.

OK, now that that’s out of the way, let’s talk football.

Ruel has worked for, among others, Lou Holtz (Arkansas), Jackie Sherrill (Texas A&M), Nick Saban (Michigan State), Bobby Ross (Detroit Lions) and Tom Coughlin (New York Giants) and has a long history of being on the winning sideline.

All that experience taught Ruel that a good quarterback makes a good coach a great deal better.

“The past five weeks all anybody in the NFL is talking about is (sidelined) Peyton Manning,” Ruel said. “They’re asking, ‘How can one guy make that big a difference?’ I tell them, ‘How can you guys be that stupid not to figure that out?’ A quarterback is handling the ball on every play. He can make decisions on every play that can beat you.”

Examples abound to back up that point. The hottest candidate for most of the top job openings is Kevin Sumlin, who has coached Houston to a 12-0 record so far. In games Case Keenum started the past three seasons, Houston has gone 24-5. In games he missed with injury, Houston went 3-6. At Kansas, Todd Reesing took a 25-6 record into a Colorado game in which he suffered a strained groin. Starting with that game, Reesing finished 0-7.

Ruel said that during most of his time at Kansas, quarterback was the one position the staff didn’t recruit well while sending linemen and players from other positions to the NFL.

“You’ve got to go all over the country to find that guy,” he said of the quarterback. “You can’t say, ‘I’m going to find that guy in Kansas City or St. Louis.’ He might be in Missoula, Mont. He might be in Boston, Mass. Look at (Todd) Reesing. He had a little something to him. He raised the level of play of everyone on the field. That’s why Boise State’s always so good. They always have good quarterbacks.”

Reesing also illustrated one of Ruel’s strong beliefs.

“You can’t put parameters on a player’s dimensions,” he said. “Is he a football player or not? That’s what you need to ask. Can he perform or not? Look at Barry Sanders. Tony Sands.”

Ruel has definite ideas on how to put together a quality staff.
“You need five really good recruiters,” Ruel said. “If you’re going to sacrifice recruiting ability, do it on coordinators.”

Every recruiting visit to a school, he said, must involve asking about juniors as sophomores.

“You tell a coach you like a sophomore, you go back that next year and that junior already knows you like him,” Ruel said. “And tell the kid you’re recruiting not to talk about your school. I would always tell them, ‘If a coach from another school asks if you’re serious about Kansas, say you just want to take a visit there.’ That way, the coaches will kill each other (in negative recruiting) and leave you alone.”

Once the quarterback is recruited, Ruel said, he can’t be rushed into action.

“You can ruin a guy really easily if he’s getting hit every play because he doesn’t understand blitz checks,” Ruel said. “That guy doesn’t think he can play anymore, and now you’re fighting that battle.”

Playing in a conference that has schools that recruit more big, blue-chip athletes, necessitates running an offense that spreads the field, Ruel believes.

“Traditional doesn’t get it done,” Ruel said. “Oregon was running a traditional offense in the Pac-10 and getting their butts beat on a regular basis. They asked themselves, ‘How can we come up with an equalizer to the talent at USC?’ Where you nullify some of those good players is you put the ball out on the perimeter, out in space. It can look a little herky-jerky at times, but eventually things pop.”

Kansas popped under strict disciplinarian head coach Mark Mangino, with the undersized Reesing running offensive coordinator Ed Warinner’s spread attack. Pairing that with Bill Young’s defense, which included several Dave Doeren recruits, led to a 12-1 season and an Orange Bowl victory.

Before that, the last double-digit victory total came 12 seasons prior, when Ruel worked under Mason for a 10-2 record. Nobody’s in the mood to wait until 2019 for another double-digit victory total.

Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger didn’t land the coach who would have won the press conference and games. Mike Leach went to Washington State. Now the issue isn’t winning the press conference, just winning games at a school that has lost 23 of its past 24 Big 12 games.

**Saul Good** · 12-02-2011, 02:16 PM

.Something seems odd about that article. Why would anyone think to call that guy, and why was he so quick to say that he is interested. It makes me wonder if KU might have leaked something

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-02-2011, 02:17 PM

Ruel sounds like a pretty reasonable guy. He's been around for a long time. However, there's probably a reasons he hasn't been a head coach. He's 61, already.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-02-2011, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

.Something seems odd about that article. Why would anyone think to call that guy, and why was he so quick to say that he is interested. It makes me wonder if KU might have leaked something

Saul, don't try to depress us before the weekend.

Bambi · 12-02-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Is anyone else hearing that Darrian Miller might be leaving, too? That would be KU's two top recruits from last year both leaving.

Sounds like MU's recruiting season so far.

**Saul Good** · 12-02-2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

Saul, don't try to depress us before the weekend.

Why would that be depressing?

**Bearcat** · 12-02-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

.Something seems odd about that article. Why would anyone think to call that guy, and why was he so quick to say that he is interested. It makes me wonder if KU might have leaked something

I double checked the date of the article after the thing about Peyton Manning... that quote has to be 2 months old.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-02-2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Why would that be depressing?

**Bowser** · 12-02-2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Sounds like MU's recruiting season so far.

So you ARE paying attention to Mizzou.

**Saul Good** · 12-02-2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

So you ARE paying attention to Mizzou.

Maybe not. Mizzou has 12 commitments that are *** or better including a QB who is in the final 3 for national HS player of the year.

**ChiTown** · 12-02-2011, 02:48 PM

From coachingsearch.com:

Kansas: Keep an eye on Southern Miss head coach Larry Fedora.

http://www.coachingsearch.com/coachi...ch-ticker.html

Bambi · 12-02-2011, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

So you ARE paying attention to Mizzou.

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12-02-2011, 02:03 PM	#244
Lzen Supporter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Jan Quadrant Vincent 16 Casino cash: $2340692	Friday, December 2, 2011 Keegan Pat Ruel knows keys to winning By Tom Keegan Coaching searches provide an excuse to call guys about whom you’ve heard so many good things but never had a chance to visit with on the phone. Golden Pat Ruel, lifelong assistant coach, qualifies as one such man. Ruel has coached football at eight different universities and five different NFL teams. He has spent the past seven seasons working for Pete Carroll at USC and with the Seattle Seahawks. Ruel, 60, and working in his fifth decade as a football coach, had the courtesy to return my phone call Thursday when he had a long break between game-day meetings preparing for a night clash with the Philadelphia Eagles in Seattle. Ruel’s longest career stop was in Lawrence where he worked for Glen Mason from 1988 through 1996 as offensive line coach and offensive coordinator. He thought he would replace Mason, but the job went to Terry Allen. A number of Lawrence residents believe Ruel, an unconventional pick, deserves a serious look. So, Pat, are you interested? “Am I interested? Yeah,” said Ruel, the Seahawks’ assistant offensive line coach. “But I also understand the dynamics. If it’s about splash, I’m not the right guy. If it’s about getting a guy who understands how to get it done, then I’m the guy.” Ruel said he still has a special place for the university that employed his wife, Marti, as vice president of student affairs. “Great environment, great place to live,” Ruel said. OK, now that that’s out of the way, let’s talk football. Ruel has worked for, among others, Lou Holtz (Arkansas), Jackie Sherrill (Texas A&M), Nick Saban (Michigan State), Bobby Ross (Detroit Lions) and Tom Coughlin (New York Giants) and has a long history of being on the winning sideline. All that experience taught Ruel that a good quarterback makes a good coach a great deal better. “The past five weeks all anybody in the NFL is talking about is (sidelined) Peyton Manning,” Ruel said. “They’re asking, ‘How can one guy make that big a difference?’ I tell them, ‘How can you guys be that stupid not to figure that out?’ A quarterback is handling the ball on every play. He can make decisions on every play that can beat you.” Examples abound to back up that point. The hottest candidate for most of the top job openings is Kevin Sumlin, who has coached Houston to a 12-0 record so far. In games Case Keenum started the past three seasons, Houston has gone 24-5. In games he missed with injury, Houston went 3-6. At Kansas, Todd Reesing took a 25-6 record into a Colorado game in which he suffered a strained groin. Starting with that game, Reesing finished 0-7. Ruel said that during most of his time at Kansas, quarterback was the one position the staff didn’t recruit well while sending linemen and players from other positions to the NFL. “You’ve got to go all over the country to find that guy,” he said of the quarterback. “You can’t say, ‘I’m going to find that guy in Kansas City or St. Louis.’ He might be in Missoula, Mont. He might be in Boston, Mass. Look at (Todd) Reesing. He had a little something to him. He raised the level of play of everyone on the field. That’s why Boise State’s always so good. They always have good quarterbacks.” Reesing also illustrated one of Ruel’s strong beliefs. “You can’t put parameters on a player’s dimensions,” he said. “Is he a football player or not? That’s what you need to ask. Can he perform or not? Look at Barry Sanders. Tony Sands.” Ruel has definite ideas on how to put together a quality staff. “You need five really good recruiters,” Ruel said. “If you’re going to sacrifice recruiting ability, do it on coordinators.” Every recruiting visit to a school, he said, must involve asking about juniors as sophomores. “You tell a coach you like a sophomore, you go back that next year and that junior already knows you like him,” Ruel said. “And tell the kid you’re recruiting not to talk about your school. I would always tell them, ‘If a coach from another school asks if you’re serious about Kansas, say you just want to take a visit there.’ That way, the coaches will kill each other (in negative recruiting) and leave you alone.” Once the quarterback is recruited, Ruel said, he can’t be rushed into action. “You can ruin a guy really easily if he’s getting hit every play because he doesn’t understand blitz checks,” Ruel said. “That guy doesn’t think he can play anymore, and now you’re fighting that battle.” Playing in a conference that has schools that recruit more big, blue-chip athletes, necessitates running an offense that spreads the field, Ruel believes. “Traditional doesn’t get it done,” Ruel said. “Oregon was running a traditional offense in the Pac-10 and getting their butts beat on a regular basis. They asked themselves, ‘How can we come up with an equalizer to the talent at USC?’ Where you nullify some of those good players is you put the ball out on the perimeter, out in space. It can look a little herky-jerky at times, but eventually things pop.” Kansas popped under strict disciplinarian head coach Mark Mangino, with the undersized Reesing running offensive coordinator Ed Warinner’s spread attack. Pairing that with Bill Young’s defense, which included several Dave Doeren recruits, led to a 12-1 season and an Orange Bowl victory. Before that, the last double-digit victory total came 12 seasons prior, when Ruel worked under Mason for a 10-2 record. Nobody’s in the mood to wait until 2019 for another double-digit victory total. Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger didn’t land the coach who would have won the press conference and games. Mike Leach went to Washington State. Now the issue isn’t winning the press conference, just winning games at a school that has lost 23 of its past 24 Big 12 games. __________________ If at first you don't succeed ...skydiving is not for you.
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12-02-2011, 02:16 PM	#245
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	.Something seems odd about that article. Why would anyone think to call that guy, and why was he so quick to say that he is interested. It makes me wonder if KU might have leaked something __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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12-02-2011, 02:17 PM	#246
Fansy the Famous Bard I'm with the Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $2466440	Ruel sounds like a pretty reasonable guy. He's been around for a long time. However, there's probably a reasons he hasn't been a head coach. He's 61, already. __________________ Hi.
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12-02-2011, 02:48 PM	#254
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