Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 2

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

mr. tegu · 08-15-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Let's start with PB telling us how he really feels about the Greinke trade. I'm not sure we're clear yet.

It was probably the worst trade in history! Seriously guys!

mr. tegu · 08-15-2013, 08:54 AM

Big game today. Who is going to step up and make the game thread? We need a proven winner for this one!

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth

Elliot Johnson is batting .186 against LHP and .176 against RHP. I don't think his defense makes up for that offense to justify a roster spot.

What defense? Same with Getz?

Yost/DM talk about those two like they are plus-defenders. They aren't even average, in my opinion. Getz has no idea what he's doing around 2nd base on double-plays. And EJ showed his wizardry in the field yesterday.

Maybe Duncan or a smarter-than-me baseball mind can explain why Royals Brass seem to think those two are good ballplayers?

ChiefsCountry · 08-15-2013, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Let's start with PB telling us how he really feels about the Greinke trade. I'm not sure we're clear yet.

Or Moose. Or Hosmer. Or how KC can't support the Royals. Or Gordon. Or Butler. Or how James Shields isn't worth anything.

Prison Bitch · 08-15-2013, 08:57 AM

Cain and Moose are wayyyyy too young to be hurt. Cain is just a glass Joe.

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 09:01 AM

Dammit. He found it

I think the problem with Cain is that he doesn't put in the effort. Brett alluded to this in an interview with 810 after he stepped down. Something along the lines of when he took the position, there were a few guys not putting in the effort he expected out of them. Mentioned Cain. But that after getting onto him about it, Cain started putting in a lot of effort.

I think he injuries are directly related to that. He may be in good shape based on genetics, but if he's not working out and training his body correctly, the type of injuries he seems to get would be a result of that. Getting an oblique strain in BP is WEAK

Deberg_1990 · 08-15-2013, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth

Elliot Johnson is batting .186 against LHP and .176 against RHP. I don't think his defense makes up for that offense to justify a roster spot.

He replaces Francour as Clubhouse cheerleader.
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DeepSouth · 08-15-2013, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

What defense? Same with Getz?

Yost/DM talk about those two like they are plus-defenders. They aren't even average, in my opinion. Getz has no idea what he's doing around 2nd base on double-plays. And EJ showed his wizardry in the field yesterday.

Maybe Duncan or a smarter-than-me baseball mind can explain why Royals Brass seem to think those two are good ballplayers?

It's my opinion that Getz is a good 2nd baseman. And, from things I've read (Judging the Royals), he's smart running the bases.

What I don't understand is his hitting;
He bats left handed but has a better average against LHP (.256) than he does against RHP (.202). I think .256 would be acceptable for a good 2nd baseman. But, that .202 against RHP sucks. Anyway, I'd keep him over EJ.

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth

It's my opinion that Getz is a good 2nd baseman. And, from things I've read (Judging the Royals), he's smart running the bases.

.

Ned? Is that you?

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth

It's my opinion that Getz is a good 2nd baseman. And, from things I've read (Judging the Royals), he's smart running the bases.

What I don't understand is his hitting;
He bats left handed but has a better average against LHP (.256) than he does against RHP (.202). I think .256 would be acceptable for a good 2nd baseman. But, that .202 against RHP sucks. Anyway, I'd keep him over EJ.

Step 1: Stop reading anything Lee Judge writes about the Royals or baseball in general.

Step 3: Profit.

Getz's defense and baserunning are SEVERELY overrated by the Royals' front office.

DeepSouth · 08-15-2013, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

Ned? Is that you?

Ha !! I could be wrong about Getz's defense. But, I think he's better defensively that Gio.

DeepSouth · 08-15-2013, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Step 1: Stop reading anything Lee Judge writes about the Royals or baseball in general.

Step 3: Profit.

Getz's defense and baserunning are SEVERELY overrated by the Royals' front office.

What happened to "Step 2" ?

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth

What happened to "Step 2" ?

It's a South Park reference.

Getz is marginally better than Giavotella at 2B. He has below-average range and a rag arm. He is sure-handed, though.

His base-running is solid but nothing special for a light-hitting middle infielder. HAve to get on base to take advantage of that, and he doesn't.

DeepSouth · 08-15-2013, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It's a South Park reference.

Getz is marginally better than Giavotella at 2B. He has below-average range and a rag arm. He is sure-handed, though.

His base-running is solid but nothing special for a light-hitting middle infielder. HAve to get on base to take advantage of that, and he doesn't.

So, when Moose and Cain return, can the Royals win with a platoon of Carrol (.300+ against LHP) and Bonifacio at 2nd?

I never watch South Park.

CaliforniaChief · 08-15-2013, 09:25 AM

Many thanks for the new Repository, Duncan.

It washes the stink of the rotting Marlins series off our hands, and today is a new day.

All of you naysayers and Neyers can GTFO and

Let's do this.

Ervin Santana ‏@ErvinSantana_54 39m
Today is the only day. Yesterday is gone. #JohnWooden

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1810308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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