Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 270

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Prison Bitch · 05-13-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

AL, AL!! the switch has had me confused at times this year as well...

Good catch. Point stands.

jbwm89 · 05-13-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It would be a very good trade and is exactly the type of trade that the farm system should be leveraged to enable.

Altuve is tiny and limited somewhat by that, but he's also a proven MLB player with decent OBP skills, a good glove, and - most important - 4 years of control after this one.

Exactly the type of deal you'd be willing to move a guy like Ventura for.

How good would .290/.350/.400 look out of 2B/the leadoff spot for the next 4.5 years? It also would allow them to leave Alex Gordon in the 3 spot long-term.

I'd be all for the deal, just clearing up that there aren't actual rumors circling. Just pure speculation.

**gblowfish** · 05-13-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I don't have a problem with the Rivera thing just because he's the best that there has ever was. The Royals aren't bigger than the game and acknowledgement of a historic player seems alright with me. I seem to remember plenty of standing ovations from other parks for Brett final games.

Yeah? Think the Red Sox are going to have a "Kiss Rivera's Ass Night???"

Great Expectations · 05-13-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I don't have a problem with the Rivera thing just because he's the best that there has ever was. The Royals aren't bigger than the game and acknowledgement of a historic player seems alright with me. I seem to remember plenty of standing ovations from other parks for Brett final games.

I remember seeing Cal Ripken in his farewell tour at the K. I think something was done for him, although I don't remember flowers.

**gblowfish** · 05-13-2013, 10:43 AM

The Orioles never kept the Royals out of the World Series two years in a row.

We should never show the Yankees any kindness, ever.

ChiefsCountry · 05-13-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Hud and Phizz were kissing Yankee ass all weekend on our broadcast.

Happens on the other team broadcasts as well. I get to see enough Cardinal broadcasts, their guys do the same thing for the opposing team.

Demonpenz · 05-13-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

I remember seeing Cal Ripken in his farewell tour at the K. I think something was done for him, although I don't remember flowers.

They had a Cal Ripkin giveaway. So atleast we didn't give away riveria bobbleheads or something.

Demonpenz · 05-13-2013, 11:28 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cal-Ripken-J...-/360424565246

Demonpenz · 05-13-2013, 11:30 AM

That last post wasn't from his last game. His last game they gave out black and white frame cards of him tipping his cap

Archie F. Swin · 05-13-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Rany's tweeting about a rumor (and that's all it is) about the Royals trading Yordano Ventura to the Astros for Jose Altuve. Interesting?

Tim Collins approves!

Pitt Gorilla · 05-13-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Rany's tweeting about a rumor (and that's all it is) about the Royals trading Yordano Ventura to the Astros for Jose Altuve. Interesting?

Pretty cool.

**ChiTown** · 05-13-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Pretty cool.

If they kick in Brandon Barnes to play RF for us, we'll give them Frenchy and a lifetime supply of Boulevard Beer.....

**alnorth** · 05-13-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

If they kick in Brandon Barnes to play RF for us, we'll give them Frenchy and a lifetime supply of Boulevard Beer.....

We'd probably have to pay for Frenchy's salary, too. He's worse than valueless.

Chiefspants · 05-13-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

We'd probably have to pay for Frenchy's salary, too. He's worse than valueless.

Let's throw in Hoch + his salary while we're at it.

Prison Bitch · 05-14-2013, 07:42 AM

Cleveland sends down 3B Lonnie Chisenhall. He was hitting .213 with 3HR. Chisenhall, 24, was ranked in Baseball America's top-25 overall prospect list and topped the Indians chart in 2011:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...1/2610943.html

(I take it you are all smart enough to know where I'm going with this one)

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1840308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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05-13-2013, 10:43 AM	#4040
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05-14-2013, 07:42 AM	#4050
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Cleveland sends down 3B Lonnie Chisenhall. He was hitting .213 with 3HR. Chisenhall, 24, was ranked in Baseball America's top-25 overall prospect list and topped the Indians chart in 2011: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...1/2610943.html (I take it you are all smart enough to know where I'm going with this one)
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