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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 07-29-2013, 04:16 PM   #7996
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Is Plouffe really that interesting? Career .236 hitter. Around .700 OPS.
He's a RH stick with pretty good power. If he COULD play a passable 2B, a guy like Plouffe (who has average a HR ever 23 AB the past three years) wouldn't be a bad guy to have playing 2B and hitting 7th for you.

He also wouldn't be a bad platoon or bench guy.
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:18 PM   #7997
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He's making 12M this year. I doubt he's going to take a pay cut after the type of season he's had.
Nope.

Only way he takes 4/$40 million is if that's the only long-term offer he gets. Edwin Jackson got 4/$52 with a less pedigree, coming off a lesser year in the easier league.

I'd say somewhere around 4/$60-70 million is what he's likely looking at.
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:28 PM   #7998
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:29 PM   #7999
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Nope.

Only way he takes 4/$40 million is if that's the only long-term offer he gets. Edwin Jackson got 4/$52 with a less pedigree, coming off a lesser year in the easier league.

I'd say somewhere around 4/$60-70 million is what he's likely looking at.
Yeah I was kinda basing it off your post earlier.

He will probably get 60.
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:33 PM   #8001
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Yeah I was kinda basing it off your post earlier.

He will probably get 60.
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I was just saying that even a lowball offer like that would be a better deal for him than the qualifying offer.
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:36 PM   #8002
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DL so they probably weren't scouting him.
but in the end Willingham will go through waivers and Royals will get him around August 15.
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He's a RH stick with pretty good power. If he COULD play a passable 2B, a guy like Plouffe (who has average a HR ever 23 AB the past three years) wouldn't be a bad guy to have playing 2B and hitting 7th for you.

He also wouldn't be a bad platoon or bench guy.
This.

He's a career 95 OPS+ guy vs. Getz (69 career OPS+). And he has played a handful (4-6) games at 2B at the MLB level. If he can be had for minimal cost, and cover second base, he'd definitely make us better.

Nothing to pop champagne corks over except that it might mean the end of Getz.
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If the Royals are going to go for it, you do it now.

I think they need to look hard at Kendrick. As far as im concerned Zimmer is untouchable and you may have to trade ventura or duffy to get him, maybe even another pitcher.

Royals cant sit on this deadline or they may as well have traded Santana.

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Willingham through waivers would be real nice for RF, power hitter
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Ex-Royal George "Boomer" Scott died Sunday.
How did I know you would be the only person to comment on a guy who played 40 games with one of the best teams we had?


His death brought some similar thought to what is being discussed today. Whitey Herzog used to bitch that Joe Burke wouldn't spend Mr K's money and get him a RH power bat all through the winning 70's. Finally, In 79 Burke acquires Boomer. Who, in 40 games hit exactly one HR. It was a classic Boomer Scott HR. A rising line drive that landed half way up the grass over the 385 sign in LC field.
By the time we got him, Scott had practically eaten himself out of the league.

Of course it was too little, too late as we lost the division to the Angels. We shouldn't have, and the Angels were very good, but the Royals were a better team.

One other thing I remember: when KC released him, the Yankees picked Scott up. Reggie was with the Yankees and said after a late game and post dinner and disco in NY, GS wanted to go eat. AGAIN. Reggie, in the quote said, "I ain't going to eat at 3am. There's no place open other than Duncan Donuts".

Bye Boomer. RIP.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:27 PM   #8009
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His death brought some similar thought to what is being discussed today. Whitey Herzog used to bitch that Joe Burke wouldn't spend Mr K's money and get him a RH power bat all through the winning 70's. Finally, In 79 Burke acquires Boomer. Who, in 40 games hit exactly one HR. It was a classic Boomer Scott HR. A rising line drive that landed half way up the grass over the 385 sign in LC field.
By the time we got him, Scott had practically eaten himself out of the league.

Of course it was too little, too late as we lost the division to the Angels. We shouldn't have, and the Angels were very good, but the Royals were a better team.

One other thing I remember: when KC released him, the Yankees picked Scott up. Reggie was with the Yankees and said after a late game and post dinner and disco in NY, GS wanted to go eat. AGAIN. Reggie, in the quote said, "I ain't going to eat at 3am. There's no place open other than Duncan Donuts".

Bye Boomer. RIP.
You have better memories of him than I do.

I remember when we got him I thought, "Cool! George Scott!" Then I remember he hit only 1 HR. And that's it.
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Barely remember he was a Royal. In '79, girls took priority over the Royals. RIP George.
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