It was a team loss

Chiefnj · 09:19 AM

I watched the game again last night in about a half-hour fast forwarding through a lot. Some observations:

1. Whoever the next QB is, the guy has to have some ability to audible. There were times when there were 9 defenders in the box clearly playing run and the Chiefs ran it anyway right into the middle of the 9 guys. I don't care if Indy had the worst run D in the league, that just isn't going to work. Green, Huard, Croyle, Testaverde, whoever it is, has to have the ability to call a pass with the one-on-one matchup on the outside.

2. The OL didn't show up at all. Even without the extra Indy defenders playing he line, the OL was beaten at the point of attack by the undersized Indy line and was never able to get a push.

3. Waters had a horrible day. He was as bad as Black. In addition to poor run and pass blocking, he stepped on Green's foot and was responsible for a critical false start on 3rd and short that put the Chiefs back to a known passing situation where Green got hit and threw a pick.

4. The D played inspired ball but once again failed to come up big when the team needed them to. After the offense finally scored and made it 8-16 they needed to make a stop on the next drive. Instead, they let Manning drive 71 yards for a TD.

5. The dropped passes were inexcusable. What people overlook is that on many of the dropped 3rd down passes, the receivers were running patterns SHORT of the first down marker. Even if they made the catch they likely wouldn't have converted. (Unfortunately that is a Herm run offense trademark).

HonestChieffan · 01-10-2007, 09:04 AM

That should clear up any questions that remain.

FringeNC · 01-10-2007, 09:06 AM

More power to you. I couldn't sit through that again.

**HemiEd** · 01-10-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

More power to you. I couldn't sit through that again.

I have it recorded as well, not sure I will ever watch it. Wife asked me last night if I wanted to delete it, told I might want to watch it this summer when the pain has subsided.

htismaqe · 01-10-2007, 09:11 AM

Number 3 is what bothers me most. I mentioned it several times the day of the game and I don't think people wanted to listen.

Waters played that game as if he didn't care. I honestly think he's a good player, but I wouldn't shed a tear if they cut him after that.

Fish · 01-10-2007, 09:22 AM

I'd disagree with #4

We held the smirking man-bitch to just 3 FGs (including a 48 and 50 yd FG) in the first half... sacked him once (only the 9th sack at home all season), and got 3 INTs... one of which Law delivered to the O on the 10yd line.

And considering the amount of time the O made the D stay on the field... I don't think you can fault this D too much.

Chiefnj · 01-10-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

I'd disagree with #4

We held the smirking man-bitch to just 3 FGs (including a 48 and 50 yd FG) in the first half... sacked him once (only the 9th sack at home all season), and got 3 INTs... one of which Law delivered to the O on the 10yd line.

And considering the amount of time the O made the D stay on the field... I don't think you can fault this D too much.

They were on the field a lot and did a great job in the first half. No doubt. But, you've got to play an entire 4 quarters of football. In the 2nd half the Colts kicked their buts. Were they tired? Sure. Should they have stepped it up for all 4 quarters in the playoffs? Yes.

Fish · 01-10-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

They were on the field a lot and did a great job in the first half. No doubt. But, you've got to play an entire 4 quarters of football. In the 2nd half the Colts kicked their buts. Were they tired? Sure. Should they have stepped it up for all 4 quarters in the playoffs? Yes.

My point was... IMO the D did more than enough to keep us in the game. If our offense would have shown up at all.... and had one or two good long drives, then the defensive performance would have looked stellar.

**Dartgod** · 01-10-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

They were on the field a lot and did a great job in the first half. No doubt. But, you've got to play an entire 4 quarters of football. In the 2nd half the Colts kicked their buts. Were they tired? Sure. Should they have stepped it up for all 4 quarters in the playoffs? Yes.

No defense is going to be effective in the 4th quarter after they have been on the field for 3/4ths of the first three.

Chiefnj · 01-10-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

No defense is going to be effective in the 4th quarter after they have been on the field for 3/4ths of the first three.

With Herm's offense and his desire to simplify even more, they are going to have to learn how to play that way.

GoHuge · 01-10-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

I'd disagree with #4

We held the smirking man-bitch to just 3 FGs (including a 48 and 50 yd FG) in the first half... sacked him once (only the 9th sack at home all season), and got 3 INTs... one of which Law delivered to the O on the 10yd line.

And considering the amount of time the O made the D stay on the field... I don't think you can fault this D too much.

I agree. What else do you want out of them? They kept Indy out of the endzone, got 3 turnovers, and never really gave up even when they saw all their efforts being wasted by the offense. Maybe this was the O geting back at them for all the years the D blew it. It had to be planned, they couldn't really be that horrible. The O was historically bad.

KCTitus · 01-10-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I agree. What else do you want out of them?

Uhh, well for one...when Law got that INT, he should have scored, duh!

milkman · 01-10-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Uhh, well for one...when Law got that INT, he should have scored, duh!

Yeah, cut his useless ass!!

**Easy 6** · 01-11-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

I'd disagree with #4

We held the smirking man-bitch to just 3 FGs (including a 48 and 50 yd FG) in the first half... sacked him once (only the 9th sack at home all season), and got 3 INTs... one of which Law delivered to the O on the 10yd line.

And considering the amount of time the O made the D stay on the field... I don't think you can fault this D too much.

ChiefsLV · 01-11-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Number 3 is what bothers me most. I mentioned it several times the day of the game and I don't think people wanted to listen.

Waters played that game as if he didn't care. I honestly think he's a good player, but I wouldn't shed a tear if they cut him after that.

The crazy thing is, if you watch the NFL Replay airing of the game, you see Waters in the pregame in the Ray Lewis role. He's leading the huddle and telling everyone how they have to play their best because it's the playoffs and they need to be accountable and play their best for the team.

Then he goes out and has a game like that.

It didn't even dawn on me that the Chiefs QB's haven't been able to audible this year. I guess I was so caught up in run, run, pass, I didn't notice. How can you not be able to audible out of a play when the defense clearly knows what you are doing? Oh, that's right, Herm wants to play into the hands of the defense. Simplify, simplify, simplify.

Sigh.

01-10-2007, 09:03 AM	Topic Starter
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	It was a team loss I watched the game again last night in about a half-hour fast forwarding through a lot. Some observations: 1. Whoever the next QB is, the guy has to have some ability to audible. There were times when there were 9 defenders in the box clearly playing run and the Chiefs ran it anyway right into the middle of the 9 guys. I don't care if Indy had the worst run D in the league, that just isn't going to work. Green, Huard, Croyle, Testaverde, whoever it is, has to have the ability to call a pass with the one-on-one matchup on the outside. 2. The OL didn't show up at all. Even without the extra Indy defenders playing he line, the OL was beaten at the point of attack by the undersized Indy line and was never able to get a push. 3. Waters had a horrible day. He was as bad as Black. In addition to poor run and pass blocking, he stepped on Green's foot and was responsible for a critical false start on 3rd and short that put the Chiefs back to a known passing situation where Green got hit and threw a pick. 4. The D played inspired ball but once again failed to come up big when the team needed them to. After the offense finally scored and made it 8-16 they needed to make a stop on the next drive. Instead, they let Manning drive 71 yards for a TD. 5. The dropped passes were inexcusable. What people overlook is that on many of the dropped 3rd down passes, the receivers were running patterns SHORT of the first down marker. Even if they made the catch they likely wouldn't have converted. (Unfortunately that is a Herm run offense trademark). Last edited by Chiefnj; 01-10-2007 at 09:19 AM..
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Number 3 is what bothers me most. I mentioned it several times the day of the game and I don't think people wanted to listen. Waters played that game as if he didn't care. I honestly think he's a good player, but I wouldn't shed a tear if they cut him after that.
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01-10-2007, 09:22 AM	#6
Fish Ain't no relax! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2308919	I'd disagree with #4 We held the smirking man-bitch to just 3 FGs (including a 48 and 50 yd FG) in the first half... sacked him once (only the 9th sack at home all season), and got 3 INTs... one of which Law delivered to the O on the 10yd line. And considering the amount of time the O made the D stay on the field... I don't think you can fault this D too much. __________________
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