Chiefs Grantland Rates Chiefs OL as Worst in the NFL - Page 5

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-29-2014, 09:44 AM

Here is the excerpt covering the Chiefs:

Considering this, the Jets’ worst-case scenario, got me thinking about who actually does have the weakest position groups in the NFL, taking season-ending injuries and the like into account. This isn’t an attempt to rag on teams for the sake of doing it, but just to take stock, a week before the season starts, of what areas teams might have the most trouble in when the games get going.

Kansas City Chiefs, offensive line

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Since last season ended, Kansas City has said good-bye to its three best linemen. In a group of five guys, that’s typically not good. Geoff Schwartz got a nice deal from the Giants. Left tackle Branden Albert, long rumored to become a Dolphin eventually, is one now. And Jon Asamoah left to give the Falcons some much-needed interior line help.

That gives the Chiefs a starting five, from left to right, of Eric Fisher, Zach Fulton, Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen, and Donald Stephenson — and Stephenson is suspended for the first four games of the season for PED use.

Fisher was the first pick in last year’s draft, and he had a really hard time as a rookie, even with less responsibility, over at right tackle. He’ll be in the big chair over on the left side this year, where more questions will be asked of him. It’s almost guaranteed he’ll be a significant downgrade from Albert. The Chiefs will also start sixth-round pick Fulton. Starting a sixth-round rookie can be spun one of two ways: Either you hit a home run late, or you have no better options. It’s typically the latter.

Kansas City’s offense is built around Jamaal Charles, but last year, having an above-average line (when Schwartz took over) certainly helped. Surviving turnover is typically a challenge for most lines, but surviving it with inferior talent is even tougher.

In the running: Jaguars, Seahawks, Bucs

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...ps-in-the-nfl/

htismaqe · 08-29-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dope

Yes, we are very fortunate for that. Good post.

Just remember that it goes both ways. They may have very well saw an Alex Smith that wasn't deserving of an extension in the 2nd half of last season, even when we thought he was playing lights out.

Sandy Vagina · 08-29-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Teams looking sharp now!

preseason judgments FTW!!!

He absolutely should have done more for the OL and WR groups.. but all of this doom and gloom is indisputably premature.

**dirk digler** · 08-29-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

You don't extend a QB who just led you to 5 wins.

And his stat line is almost assured to be putrid. This is a guy who completes 60 percent of his passes during a good season.

I don't know about that. I am no Smith homer but if he is running for his life every passing play you can't really fault him. I looked up last year he had 39 sacks I bet he gets over 50 this year, if he makes it through the whole season that is.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-29-2014, 10:26 AM

Gimme a break...Albert got $25 mil guaranteed. There is NO way chiefs could have afforded him.

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-29-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

preseason judgments FTW!!!

He absolutely should have done more for the OL and WR groups.. but all of this doom and gloom is indisputably premature.

yes lets wait until after the season is over to make our predictions guys

because "sandy cheeks" said so

jd1020 · 08-29-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

preseason judgments FTW!!!

He absolutely should have done more for the OL and WR groups.. but all of this doom and gloom is indisputably premature.

Just WR and OL?

Literally every hole the Chiefs had wasn't acknowledged in any way.

Sandy Vagina · 08-29-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just remember that it goes both ways. They may have very well saw an Alex Smith that wasn't deserving of an extension in the 2nd half of last season, even when we thought he was playing lights out.

I think maybe they overestimated Smith's team-first generosity... just as it looks like I have. Alex may be a little too willing to allow his pig of an agent full control.

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-29-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Gimme a break...Albert got $25 mil guaranteed. There is NO way chiefs could have afforded him.

so we cant afford albert but we can afford to get a 1.1 left tackle and then pay him even MORE money if he is actually decent?

Youre telling me locking up albert in like 2012 was more expensive than whatever fisher is going to cost, if fisher turns into what they said he was?

John Dope · 08-29-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just remember that it goes both ways. They may have very well saw an Alex Smith that wasn't deserving of an extension in the 2nd half of last season, even when we thought he was playing lights out.

Andy Reid wouldn't say he "is confident a deal with get done with Alex" about 500 times if that were the case.

Reality man.... come to reality....

Eleazar · 08-29-2014, 10:28 AM

I'll never understand why they let Schwartz go.

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-29-2014, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I'll never understand why they let Schwartz go.

Because they knew he was going to be injured

/ L.A. ChiefsFluffer

htismaqe · 08-29-2014, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Gimme a break...Albert got $25 mil guaranteed. There is NO way chiefs could have afforded him.

Eric Fisher got $22M guaranteed. You do know that right?

**dirk digler** · 08-29-2014, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Have you guys forgotten about Black and the other piles of shit we had a few years ago?

Our line is not going to be good, but to say they are going to be the worst is insane.

When Black was here we still had Will Shields, Waters and Weigman. This is going to be a trainwreck.

**alpha_omega** · 08-29-2014, 10:29 AM

At this point...i am having a hard time getting upset about this anymore. that will probably change a week from sunday.

htismaqe · 08-29-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dope

Andy Reid wouldn't say he "is confident a deal with get done with Alex" about 500 times if that were the case.

Reality man.... come to reality....

Gimme a break.

Coaches say whatever they want when it fits the narrative.

THAT is reality.

Just like last week when Doug Pederson said Eric Fisher was struggling with technique and his shoulder was fine while Andy Heck was AT THE SAME TIME telling everybody Eric Fisher was struggling with his shoulder and his technique was fine.

08-29-2014, 09:44 AM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Grantland Rates Chiefs OL as Worst in the NFL Here is the excerpt covering the Chiefs: Considering this, the Jets’ worst-case scenario, got me thinking about who actually does have the weakest position groups in the NFL, taking season-ending injuries and the like into account. This isn’t an attempt to rag on teams for the sake of doing it, but just to take stock, a week before the season starts, of what areas teams might have the most trouble in when the games get going. Kansas City Chiefs, offensive line eric-fisher Since last season ended, Kansas City has said good-bye to its three best linemen. In a group of five guys, that’s typically not good. Geoff Schwartz got a nice deal from the Giants. Left tackle Branden Albert, long rumored to become a Dolphin eventually, is one now. And Jon Asamoah left to give the Falcons some much-needed interior line help. That gives the Chiefs a starting five, from left to right, of Eric Fisher, Zach Fulton, Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen, and Donald Stephenson — and Stephenson is suspended for the first four games of the season for PED use. Fisher was the first pick in last year’s draft, and he had a really hard time as a rookie, even with less responsibility, over at right tackle. He’ll be in the big chair over on the left side this year, where more questions will be asked of him. It’s almost guaranteed he’ll be a significant downgrade from Albert. The Chiefs will also start sixth-round pick Fulton. Starting a sixth-round rookie can be spun one of two ways: Either you hit a home run late, or you have no better options. It’s typically the latter. Kansas City’s offense is built around Jamaal Charles, but last year, having an above-average line (when Schwartz took over) certainly helped. Surviving turnover is typically a challenge for most lines, but surviving it with inferior talent is even tougher. In the running: Jaguars, Seahawks, Bucs http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...ps-in-the-nfl/
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