NFL Draft Would you trade 2015's 1st rounder for a 2014 2nd round pick?

**RealSNR** · 10:46 AM

A lot of people (most vocally BossChief) are observing that because of all the underclassmen coming into this draft, there is a logjam of talent extending all the way from the middle of the 1st to the early 4th round. The Chiefs only have 2 picks in the top 100. Also, that is almost sure to figure into a somewhat lousy 2015 class.

Let's say the Chiefs make a deal with the 49ers to get their Alex Smith pick back in exchange for our 2015 1st. Picks at 23, 56, and 87 will allow us to potentially fill all of the remaining roster holes or pick up an incredible talent at a future position of need like CB, DL... hell, even QB.

The possibilities are endless in this scenario. Maybe Dorsey lands a trade down at 23 and picks up more picks. Or maybe a guy like Clinton-Dix or Beckham is available at 1. That 2nd round pick of ours now gives us the freedom to target our FS, passrusher (I'm a huge fan of Jeremiah Attaochu), or another bottom first round talent who is bound to fall into our laps in this deep class.

It gives us a ton more freedom at the top of the draft where we really need it. That's why I'd advocate for it.

EDIT: And as htismaqe pointed out, we've got a crap ton of comp picks in 2015 anyway. It's not like we're going to be starved for rookies or anything.

Poll forthcoming

Dunerdr · 03-27-2014, 10:37 AM

Yes less for the talent more for the time developing. Serious contention sooner and longer.

Deberg_1990 · 03-27-2014, 10:39 AM

If you are convinced that the 2015 will be a late round pick, might be worth it.

saphojunkie · 03-27-2014, 10:42 AM

If it's at the top of the 2nd, then absolutely.

I think I'd probably wait and see if there's a player I want that falls.

Let's say we go Dee Ford, and then somehow Beckham or Lee falls to the 15th pick in the second. Why not? They're most likely every bit as talented as someone you'd get next year, and your team is that much better that much faster.

htismaqe · 03-27-2014, 10:42 AM

Just wait.

The Chiefs will actually trade picks in this draft for picks in the next draft. They'll finish 6-10, pick up a fistful of comp picks, and be absolutely LOADED going into the 2015 draft.

And then starting in about February, all the talking heads will start talking about how 2015 is so bad, almost as bad as 2013.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-27-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just wait.

The Chiefs will actually trade picks in this draft for picks in the next draft. They'll finish 6-10, pick up a fistful of comp picks, and be absolutely LOADED going into the 2015 draft.

And then starting in about February, all the talking heads will start talking about how 2015 is so bad, almost as bad as 2013.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

**RealSNR** · 03-27-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just wait.

The Chiefs will actually trade picks in this draft for picks in the next draft. They'll finish 6-10, pick up a fistful of comp picks, and be absolutely LOADED going into the 2015 draft.

And then starting in about February, all the talking heads will start talking about how 2015 is so bad, almost as bad as 2013.

I totally forgot about the comp picks we'll have next year. Another good reason.

**Rain Man** · 03-27-2014, 10:47 AM

No. Two words. Bobby and Beathard.

**SAUTO** · 03-27-2014, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Exactly
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**RealSNR** · 03-27-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

No. Two words. Bobby and Beathard.

That's three words.

DTLB58 · 03-27-2014, 10:48 AM

We can discuss it all we want. There's no way in hell Dorsey is giving up his #1 pick in '15.
Dorsey is a conservative GM. He is going to build this team very methodically. Chief fans are going to need patience. Of course this is just my opinion.

**RealSNR** · 03-27-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

We can discuss it all we want. There's no way in hell Dorsey is giving up his #1 pick in '15.
Dorsey is a conservative GM. He is going to build this team very methodically. Chief fans are going to need patience. Of course this is just my opinion.

There's also no way we won't draft a fatty with our 1st or 3rd.

Doesn't mean I can't dream or speculate.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-27-2014, 10:49 AM

If it was a top 10 2nd rounder yeah probably. That's if we plan on havin the 32nd pick next year.

**Rain Man** · 03-27-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

That's three words.

I probably should have used an ampersand. Is an ampersand a word?

htismaqe · 03-27-2014, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

We can discuss it all we want. There's no way in hell Dorsey is giving up his #1 pick in '15.
Dorsey is a conservative GM. He is going to build this team very methodically. Chief fans are going to need patience. Of course this is just my opinion.

He gave up two 2nd-rounders for Alex Smith. "No way in hell" is an overstatement to say the least.

View Poll Results: Would you swap our 2015 1st for a 2014 2nd?
Yes. I would trade with any team.	4	4.94%
Perhaps, depending on where the pick lies in the 2nd. I'm not terribly interested in taking Seattle's pick	16	19.75%
Probably not. I'd need to see who was available when we made the deal, but I'm leaning towards no	28	34.57%
No. Too risky. You have no clue where we'll pick or what kind of talent will be there	33	40.74%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

03-27-2014, 10:35 AM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2450208	Would you trade 2015's 1st rounder for a 2014 2nd round pick? A lot of people (most vocally BossChief) are observing that because of all the underclassmen coming into this draft, there is a logjam of talent extending all the way from the middle of the 1st to the early 4th round. The Chiefs only have 2 picks in the top 100. Also, that is almost sure to figure into a somewhat lousy 2015 class. Let's say the Chiefs make a deal with the 49ers to get their Alex Smith pick back in exchange for our 2015 1st. Picks at 23, 56, and 87 will allow us to potentially fill all of the remaining roster holes or pick up an incredible talent at a future position of need like CB, DL... hell, even QB. The possibilities are endless in this scenario. Maybe Dorsey lands a trade down at 23 and picks up more picks. Or maybe a guy like Clinton-Dix or Beckham is available at 1. That 2nd round pick of ours now gives us the freedom to target our FS, passrusher (I'm a huge fan of Jeremiah Attaochu), or another bottom first round talent who is bound to fall into our laps in this deep class. It gives us a ton more freedom at the top of the draft where we really need it. That's why I'd advocate for it. EDIT: And as htismaqe pointed out, we've got a crap ton of comp picks in 2015 anyway. It's not like we're going to be starved for rookies or anything. Poll forthcoming Last edited by RealSNR; 03-27-2014 at 10:46 AM..
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03-27-2014, 10:37 AM	#2
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saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4796250	If it's at the top of the 2nd, then absolutely. I think I'd probably wait and see if there's a player I want that falls. Let's say we go Dee Ford, and then somehow Beckham or Lee falls to the 15th pick in the second. Why not? They're most likely every bit as talented as someone you'd get next year, and your team is that much better that much faster.
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03-27-2014, 10:42 AM	#5
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Just wait. The Chiefs will actually trade picks in this draft for picks in the next draft. They'll finish 6-10, pick up a fistful of comp picks, and be absolutely LOADED going into the 2015 draft. And then starting in about February, all the talking heads will start talking about how 2015 is so bad, almost as bad as 2013.
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