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Old 10-04-2013, 11:46 AM  
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:45 PM   #136
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:47 PM   #137
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:50 PM   #138
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10th year in the NLDS. 10 ****ing years and this is your strike zone?
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:52 PM   #139
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I just dont understand his pitching decisions. He starts Martinez in the 8th and then he brings in Siegriest to face a right handed batter with a runner on second. Why cant he just play the damn game the way its suppose to be played?
Matheny has some splaning to do. You go with what got you there. Baseball 101.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:02 PM   #140
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Matheny has some splaning to do. You go with what got you there. Baseball 101.
Ya starting Lynn over Miller in game 2 even though Miller has been dominant at home. And now the bullpen **** ups in game 3. Its just crazy that he somehow thinks he is smarter then the game.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:11 PM   #141
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10th year in the NLDS. 10 ****ing years and this is your strike zone?
Looks like he favored the left side of the plate by a couple inches but I dont see anything to get upset about.

What was the strike zone for the Cards?

I didn't watch the whole game but it sounded like from the announcers that he was pretty consistent about calling a strike on the outside to right handed hitters.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:13 PM   #142
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Ya starting Lynn over Miller in game 2 even though Miller has been dominant at home. And now the bullpen **** ups in game 3. Its just crazy that he somehow thinks he is smarter then the game.
He doesn't think he's smarter than the game; you're giving him way too much credit. He's just a ****ing dumbass.
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Looks like he favored the left side of the plate by a couple inches but I dont see anything to get upset about.

What was the strike zone for the Cards?

I didn't watch the whole game but it sounded like from the announcers that he was pretty consistent about calling a strike on the outside to right handed hitters.
Even the TBS guys were aghast at the horrific nature of the strike zone. Brenly openly questioned it close to a dozen times.


Here's Kelly's zone. Note the massive difference on the same corner:

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Old 10-06-2013, 06:16 PM   #144
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I really dont see a massive difference.

Hell... Kelly even got a couple strike calls that were half a foot farther off the plate.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:24 PM   #145
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Kelly got the two worst calls of the day (for the starters), but a zone like that helps a pitcher like Liriano far more than Kelly, because you can't take marginal pitches, which means you have to swing at sliders that are bending significantly out of the zone. Similarly, a wind blowing 40 mph out would help the Braves more than the Cardinals, even though the Cardinals have a better offense top to bottom.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:51 PM   #146
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Kelly got the two worst calls of the day (for the starters), but a zone like that helps a pitcher like Liriano far more than Kelly, because you can't take marginal pitches, which means you have to swing at sliders that are bending significantly out of the zone. Similarly, a wind blowing 40 mph out would help the Braves more than the Cardinals, even though the Cardinals have a better offense top to bottom.
The missed ball four on Holliday was particularly damaging after the Beltran homer. Instead of first and third with not outs or first and second you have one on one out. That could have been a big inning. That said, take care of business tomorrow and I like our chances in 5.

Also, could we bump the regular season thread and let this rally killer fade into the abyss?
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Other than Wainwright, I wouldn't want anyone else on the mound. Plus, it's Charlie Morton for the Pirates, so I'm not really worried.
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