Chiefs Does anyone know how much Cap Room

Coltman · 03-20-2009, 06:25 AM

we have now that we have signed Cassel and a few free agents? I know we terminated a few players also. Just curious as I think there will be some good players released before the season starts and also we need to sign all our draft picks as well. I'm sure we are still in good shape but I know there is someone on the Planet that knows where we are with our cap????

Amnorix · 03-20-2009, 07:14 AM

Entire NFL, as of March 18, and would not include any signings within a day or two before that date:

Tampa Bay $39.64 million
Philadelphia $38.92 million
Kansas City $34.63 million
San Francisco $30.77 million
Green Bay $29.88 million
Chicago $28.62 million
Cleveland $22.02 million
Minnesota $21.91 million
Jacksonville $21.29 million
Denver $19.22 million
Cincinnati $16.35 million
N.Y. Jets $14.33 million
Tennessee $13.99 million
Miami $13.86 million
Houston $13.69 million
Atlanta $13.55 million
St. Louis $12.42 million
Detroit $11.78 million
Dallas $10.88 million
Oakland $10.35 million
Buffalo $10.30 million
San Diego $8.56 million
Indianapolis $7.15 million
N.Y. Giants $6.78 million
Washington $6.57 million
New England $6.07 million
Baltimore $5.99 million
Seattle $5.87 million
Carolina $5.11 million
Arizona $4.14 million
Pittsburgh $3.91 million
New Orleans $1.38 million

EyePod · 03-20-2009, 07:27 AM

According to Bob Gretz:

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The NFL salary cap ceiling for the 2009 season is $127 million. Teams must spend 87.6 percent of that, setting the salary floor at $111.252 million. When free agency started, the Chiefs had a ballpark figure of $50 million under the cap available to them, meaning $77 million was spoken for by players on the roster. That number jumped by $18 million with the additions of Cassel and Vrabel, so now the team is at $95 million. That leaves about $16 million for the Chiefs to reach the minimum and $32 million to reach the maximum.

I'm not sure how he includes Cassel though because I'm pretty sure we haven't signed him yet...

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...iefs-plan.html

Chiefnj2 · 03-20-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

According to Bob Gretz:

I'm not sure how he includes Cassel though because I'm pretty sure we haven't signed him yet...

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...iefs-plan.html

Cassel was tagged by NE. KC is responsible for that amount.

EyePod · 03-20-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Cassel was tagged by NE. KC is responsible for that amount.

Not if we re-do a contract though (at least I think).

wazimo · 03-20-2009, 07:54 AM

When we redo the contract for Cassel, the cap hit should decrease significantly from the 14.8MM?? to the new number. If his new cap number is 6MM we would have an additional 8.8MM in my scenario. I am not sure if I got the Franchise number correct, but it is pretty close.

EyePod · 03-20-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wazimo

When we redo the contract for Cassel, the cap hit should decrease significantly from the 14.8MM?? to the new number. If his new cap number is 6MM we would have an additional 8.8MM in my scenario. I am not sure if I got the Franchise number correct, but it is pretty close.

That's about right. Rotoworld says $14.651 million. I'm not sure if there's any bonus's or anything though.

Mecca · 03-20-2009, 07:57 AM

It depends how the contract is structured...

If they don't want to spend money on FA's they could simply sign Cassel to a deal that gives him huge money in the first 2 years, and or restructure a couple other contracts that way you get above the floor and actually open future money.

Chiefnj2 · 03-20-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Not if we re-do a contract though (at least I think).

Correct. That was part of the hangup with NE trading him to someone else. Usually in these situations teams want to come to a new long term contract agreement with the player. KC was willing to take him at the tender amount.

EyePod · 03-20-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It depends how the contract is structured...

If they don't want to spend money on FA's they could simply sign Cassel to a deal that gives him huge money in the first 2 years, and or restructure a couple other contracts that way you get above the floor and actually open future money.

I hope we front load our rookie contracts since we have so much space. The only thing I worry about is a Boldin-like attitude.... but who knows what will happen with the uncapped years ahead...

Mecca · 03-20-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

I hope we front load our rookie contracts since we have so much space. The only thing I worry about is a Boldin-like attitude.... but who knows what will happen with the uncapped years ahead...

If the league becomes uncapped this team is ****ed either way.

Amnorix · 03-20-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

According to Bob Gretz:

I'm not sure how he includes Cassel though because I'm pretty sure we haven't signed him yet...

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...iefs-plan.html

Cassell signed his franchise tender. Those rights were traded to the Chiefs. He is now signed for a one year contract with the Chiefs for the franchise number.

Amnorix · 03-20-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Cassel was tagged by NE. KC is responsible for that amount.

Yes, but he is no longer tagged. He is under contract for the tendered amount, having signed the franchise offer.

Amnorix · 03-20-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Not if we re-do a contract though (at least I think).

Correct. The player and team may negotiate a longer-term deal.

Amnorix · 03-20-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wazimo

When we redo the contract for Cassel, the cap hit should decrease significantly from the 14.8MM?? to the new number. If his new cap number is 6MM we would have an additional 8.8MM in my scenario. I am not sure if I got the Franchise number correct, but it is pretty close.

Given the Chiefs cap situation, they may take the unusual step of FRONT loading the contract.

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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Entire NFL, as of March 18, and would not include any signings within a day or two before that date: Tampa Bay $39.64 million Philadelphia $38.92 million Kansas City $34.63 million San Francisco $30.77 million Green Bay $29.88 million Chicago $28.62 million Cleveland $22.02 million Minnesota $21.91 million Jacksonville $21.29 million Denver $19.22 million Cincinnati $16.35 million N.Y. Jets $14.33 million Tennessee $13.99 million Miami $13.86 million Houston $13.69 million Atlanta $13.55 million St. Louis $12.42 million Detroit $11.78 million Dallas $10.88 million Oakland $10.35 million Buffalo $10.30 million San Diego $8.56 million Indianapolis $7.15 million N.Y. Giants $6.78 million Washington $6.57 million New England $6.07 million Baltimore $5.99 million Seattle $5.87 million Carolina $5.11 million Arizona $4.14 million Pittsburgh $3.91 million New Orleans $1.38 million
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wazimo Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	When we redo the contract for Cassel, the cap hit should decrease significantly from the 14.8MM?? to the new number. If his new cap number is 6MM we would have an additional 8.8MM in my scenario. I am not sure if I got the Franchise number correct, but it is pretty close.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2707050	It depends how the contract is structured... If they don't want to spend money on FA's they could simply sign Cassel to a deal that gives him huge money in the first 2 years, and or restructure a couple other contracts that way you get above the floor and actually open future money.
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